Deux personnes apparaissent mystérieusement à Oslo. Ce sont les premiers d'une longue liste de personnes venues du passé à trouver refuge dans le présent. Sept ans plus tard, rien n'est plus... Tout lireDeux personnes apparaissent mystérieusement à Oslo. Ce sont les premiers d'une longue liste de personnes venues du passé à trouver refuge dans le présent. Sept ans plus tard, rien n'est plus pareil.Deux personnes apparaissent mystérieusement à Oslo. Ce sont les premiers d'une longue liste de personnes venues du passé à trouver refuge dans le présent. Sept ans plus tard, rien n'est plus pareil.
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Norwegian. Really interesting, inventive. very few in this genre are a 10-
Engaging. Leads are great; script & dialogue. Yes I have to depend on the subtitles. In French subtitles, I understand well enough, that I see they are not, in my estimation, accurate to capture the dialogue. This is one reason why often French, especially comedies, don't translate-
in my opinion, HBO Has 2 big winners- this & The Plot Agaisnt America. many of the others are unwatchable. Even those that win awards.
SciFi fan or not, I say watch this one.
looking forward to Season 2.
Engaging. Leads are great; script & dialogue. Yes I have to depend on the subtitles. In French subtitles, I understand well enough, that I see they are not, in my estimation, accurate to capture the dialogue. This is one reason why often French, especially comedies, don't translate-
in my opinion, HBO Has 2 big winners- this & The Plot Agaisnt America. many of the others are unwatchable. Even those that win awards.
SciFi fan or not, I say watch this one.
looking forward to Season 2.
SEASON 1
Groups of people from three eras in the past are suddenly appearing in Oslo and elsewhere in the world. The appearance of the corpse of a woman, one of those "visitors", generates a complex police investigation.
Beforeigners cleverly and with abundant doses of biting, ironic and colorful humor face the problems that arise with these "visitors" who are being incorporated into Norwegian society. In this way, immigration, multiculturalism, sects, fundamentalisms, westernization, xenophobia (and the list goes on) are approached from a highly original approach and with a great deployment of "period" production.
But all this constitutes the social framework of the police investigation of the murder, carried out by a charismatic pair of detectives: Lars Haaland, a current Norwegian (Nicolai Cleve Broch) and Alfhildr Enginnsdóttir, an "updated" Viking (the Finnish Krista Kosonen). His private life and complex research, then, will necessarily interact with all those cultural sectors.
Beforeigners is then a successful hybrid of police, social comedy and fantasy.
SEASON 2
Summary
At times darker and more serious than season 1, however, at times, it recovers its characteristic sharp humor and self-confidence and continues to develop its original and satirical look at multiculturalism (the result of the presence of authentic Viking time travelers in the present), the personal story of its protagonist Viking detective (a sort of Scandinavian Tilda Swinton) and the science fiction tale that underlies and frames the series.
Review
A series of murders of women leads the Norwegian police to request the collaboration of the British police, represented by an Afro-descendant detective and an Orthodox Jewish detective, as the murderer is suspected of being an English time traveler.
This is just one of the tips of the new season of that original Norwegian police series. Added to that narrative line are the claims of Olav, a Viking time traveler (the Norwegian Tobias Santelmann) to gain access to the throne of Norway helped by a lesbian volva (Viking sorceress) (the Swedish Hedda Stiernstedt) and the adventures of the Viking detective Alfhildr Enginnsdóttir (the Finnish Krista Kosonen, a sort of Scandinavian Tilda Swinton), linked to her character as a time traveler, who assumes a clear portagonism in the series over that of her partner Detective Haaland (the Norwegian Nicolai Cleve Broch), very busy with his role as father. Regardless, the two continue to work together and make up one of the sexiest detective couples in recent years.
The series' original focus on multiculturalism then focuses on the Vikings, losing some of the variety it had in season 1. Fortunately, every time it runs the risk of becoming a linear tale on one of its narrative lines, stagnating or lose your way, the script invigorates the other subplots and adds new layers to all of them.
Although the commitment to the combination of genres is still valid, this season the tone becomes at times more serious and darker than in the first, although it does not take long to sow the journey with its characteristic ironic humor and self-confidence. On the other hand, it takes up and enhances its side of a science fiction story, in this sense providing a chapter of enormous power, almost a movie in itself.
Groups of people from three eras in the past are suddenly appearing in Oslo and elsewhere in the world. The appearance of the corpse of a woman, one of those "visitors", generates a complex police investigation.
Beforeigners cleverly and with abundant doses of biting, ironic and colorful humor face the problems that arise with these "visitors" who are being incorporated into Norwegian society. In this way, immigration, multiculturalism, sects, fundamentalisms, westernization, xenophobia (and the list goes on) are approached from a highly original approach and with a great deployment of "period" production.
But all this constitutes the social framework of the police investigation of the murder, carried out by a charismatic pair of detectives: Lars Haaland, a current Norwegian (Nicolai Cleve Broch) and Alfhildr Enginnsdóttir, an "updated" Viking (the Finnish Krista Kosonen). His private life and complex research, then, will necessarily interact with all those cultural sectors.
Beforeigners is then a successful hybrid of police, social comedy and fantasy.
SEASON 2
Summary
At times darker and more serious than season 1, however, at times, it recovers its characteristic sharp humor and self-confidence and continues to develop its original and satirical look at multiculturalism (the result of the presence of authentic Viking time travelers in the present), the personal story of its protagonist Viking detective (a sort of Scandinavian Tilda Swinton) and the science fiction tale that underlies and frames the series.
Review
A series of murders of women leads the Norwegian police to request the collaboration of the British police, represented by an Afro-descendant detective and an Orthodox Jewish detective, as the murderer is suspected of being an English time traveler.
This is just one of the tips of the new season of that original Norwegian police series. Added to that narrative line are the claims of Olav, a Viking time traveler (the Norwegian Tobias Santelmann) to gain access to the throne of Norway helped by a lesbian volva (Viking sorceress) (the Swedish Hedda Stiernstedt) and the adventures of the Viking detective Alfhildr Enginnsdóttir (the Finnish Krista Kosonen, a sort of Scandinavian Tilda Swinton), linked to her character as a time traveler, who assumes a clear portagonism in the series over that of her partner Detective Haaland (the Norwegian Nicolai Cleve Broch), very busy with his role as father. Regardless, the two continue to work together and make up one of the sexiest detective couples in recent years.
The series' original focus on multiculturalism then focuses on the Vikings, losing some of the variety it had in season 1. Fortunately, every time it runs the risk of becoming a linear tale on one of its narrative lines, stagnating or lose your way, the script invigorates the other subplots and adds new layers to all of them.
Although the commitment to the combination of genres is still valid, this season the tone becomes at times more serious and darker than in the first, although it does not take long to sow the journey with its characteristic ironic humor and self-confidence. On the other hand, it takes up and enhances its side of a science fiction story, in this sense providing a chapter of enormous power, almost a movie in itself.
This show is absolutely brilliant! It is wrongly categorized as "Drama/Sci-fi". It is deliriously hilarious! I dare you to watch it alone and not laugh out loud. The concept, acting, screenplay and cast are all brilliant. The rarest (and best) part of all is the originality of concept. This is HBO's first venture into Norway. For me, most HBO series are seriously lacking. Even the wildly popular "Game of Thrones" is loaded with gratuitous violence, sex, language, etc. I find this boring. Even their big budget series "Westworld" is highly un-original and inferior when compared to this small series. With the exception of HBO's 2016 TV Mini-series "The Night Of" (8 Episodes), this is the best show they have made in years; bar none. If you have not heard of Danish actress Krista Kosonen, you will soon; I promise. Besides several roles in smaller TV shows or films, she had a bit part in a huge one: Denis Villeneuve's "Blade Runner 2049" (2017). Now, she has a lead role in a brilliant HBO TV Mini-series (6 episodes). Go Vikings!!! I love it.
I love good scifi from The Expanse, Raised by Wolves to Altered Carbon, (Norwegian) Ragnarok, am clearly not a purist. Most high rating Scandi-anything shows have worked for me.
But I'm also super bored by time travel theme (after overdosing on 12 Monkeys, Fringe, Centurion) to the point that I couldn't sit through the 1st season of Dark.
The only recent time travel shows that managed to grab me are Outlander and The Nevers.
What stands out with Beforeigners: it is not obsessed with the "technical correctness" of time-jumping. It has hyper specific time travel "era points", fast pacing. I also like the subtle but lethal humor about Vikings and religious doctrines. It's almost like the story is not very serious, but at the same time, it is also making specific moral/ socio-cultural/ political points.
The cliff hanger at the end of first season is very daring and enticing. Overall, I've been entertained, so, highly recommended.
But I'm also super bored by time travel theme (after overdosing on 12 Monkeys, Fringe, Centurion) to the point that I couldn't sit through the 1st season of Dark.
The only recent time travel shows that managed to grab me are Outlander and The Nevers.
What stands out with Beforeigners: it is not obsessed with the "technical correctness" of time-jumping. It has hyper specific time travel "era points", fast pacing. I also like the subtle but lethal humor about Vikings and religious doctrines. It's almost like the story is not very serious, but at the same time, it is also making specific moral/ socio-cultural/ political points.
The cliff hanger at the end of first season is very daring and enticing. Overall, I've been entertained, so, highly recommended.
I looked out this show, because I heard that in this show Krista Kosonen speaks languages that she doesn't actually speak irl. I wanted to see how good work she does. But yeah, I forgot that aspect as soon as I found the show. It's not Krista, it's Alfhildir, a bad ass police and a soldier. The show is funny, witty, very perceptive about nuances of the present day nationalism and migration themes. Also I love love love the "old languages" in the show #linguisticnerd .
Okay, there are also many historical flaws (it almost hurt me to see modern harness on a horse in year of 1300 or something. Like come on, wrap something over them or something) and inconsistencies, but I can forgive them, because the show is very good. Oh and also, good work Krista! You nailed the languages!
Okay, there are also many historical flaws (it almost hurt me to see modern harness on a horse in year of 1300 or something. Like come on, wrap something over them or something) and inconsistencies, but I can forgive them, because the show is very good. Oh and also, good work Krista! You nailed the languages!
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- AnecdotesFinnish actress Krista Kosonen (Alfhildr Enginnsdóttir) does not speak Norwegian and had to learn to say her lines with the correct pronunciation, as well as the ones in Old Norse and Old Sámi, for the role.
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