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Ba Bai

Titre original : Ba bai
  • 2020
  • 14A
  • 2h 29m
ÉVALUATION IMDb
6,7/10
8 k
MA NOTE
Ba Bai (2020)
Regarder Official Trailer
Liretrailer1 min 30 s
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DrameGuerreHistoriqueMesureEpopée de la guerre

Une épopée de guerre passionnante. En 1937, huit cents soldats chinois combattent depuis un entrepôt situé au milieu du champ de bataille de Shanghai, complètement encerclés par l'armée japo... Tout lireUne épopée de guerre passionnante. En 1937, huit cents soldats chinois combattent depuis un entrepôt situé au milieu du champ de bataille de Shanghai, complètement encerclés par l'armée japonaise.Une épopée de guerre passionnante. En 1937, huit cents soldats chinois combattent depuis un entrepôt situé au milieu du champ de bataille de Shanghai, complètement encerclés par l'armée japonaise.

  • Director
    • Guan Hu
  • Writers
    • Guan Hu
    • Rui Ge
    • Kun Hu
  • Stars
    • Zhizhong Huang
    • Junyi Zhang
    • Hao Ou
  • Voir l’information sur la production à IMDbPro
  • ÉVALUATION IMDb
    6,7/10
    8 k
    MA NOTE
    • Director
      • Guan Hu
    • Writers
      • Guan Hu
      • Rui Ge
      • Kun Hu
    • Stars
      • Zhizhong Huang
      • Junyi Zhang
      • Hao Ou
    • 58Commentaires d'utilisateurs
    • 44Commentaires de critiques
    • 64Métascore
  • Voir l’information sur la production à IMDbPro
    • Prix
      • 27 victoires et 40 nominations au total

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    Rôles principaux70

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    Zhizhong Huang
    Zhizhong Huang
    • Lao Hulu
    Junyi Zhang
    • Xiao Hubei
    Hao Ou
    Hao Ou
    • Duan Wu
    Xiaoguang Hu
    • Hubei Officer
    Wu Jiang
    Wu Jiang
    • Lao Tie
    Yi Zhang
    Yi Zhang
    • Old Abacus
    Qianyuan Wang
    Qianyuan Wang
    • Yang Guai
    Cheng Zhang
    • Lei Xiong
    Siyu Lu
    Siyu Lu
    • Yang Ruifu
    Chun Du
    Chun Du
    • Xie Jinyuan
    Vision Wei
    Vision Wei
    • Zhu Shengzhong
    • (as Chen Wei)
    En Bai
    En Bai
    • Yang Deyu
    Youhao Zhang
    Youhao Zhang
    • Xiao Qiyue
    Lu Cao
    • Jiang Jing
    • (as Noah Lu)
    Yixin Tang
    Yixin Tang
    • Yang Huimin
    Jiuxiao Li
    Jiuxiao Li
    • Dao Zi
    Chen Li
    Chen Li
    • Shandong Soldier
    Yong Hou
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    • Director
      • Guan Hu
    • Writers
      • Guan Hu
      • Rui Ge
      • Kun Hu
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    Commentaires des utilisateurs58

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    8valleyjohn

    Fantastic looking film

    The Eight Hundred was the biggest grossing film of 2020 , beating Tenet but it's not surprising when you think about it. It was released during the pandemic and China has a population of over two billion , so in theory they could beat Hollywood every year.

    Having said all that , this is a much better film than Tenet anyway .

    It's the story of a group of Chinese soldiers and draft dodgers , in 1937 who put up a four-day defence of a Shanghai warehouse complex just as Japanese forces are overwhelming China.

    This film looks amazing. As war films go it's right up there and i was surprised to see it only cost only eighty Million dollars. Perhaps that is because they didn't spent so much of the budget on actors wages as Hollywood , would normally ?

    I have to admit the logistics had me confused at times. I would have liked more of an explanation as to why one side of the river was so different to the other and why people of all nationalities were just watching the chaos go on .

    The acting was really good and i like the fact that they were not afraid to kill off main characters.

    It's biggest problem is it's too long . In fact it's that long the opening credits were still playing twenty minutes after the start of the film. I did think at one stage that i might have to watch it in two parts but thankfully i manages to see it through and in the long run , it was definitely worth it.

    I'm sure the Chinese people will have loved this. It does feel a little flag waving at times , almost as if it's a propaganda movie but i can forgive director Hu Guan for that because he has produced a stunning piece of work.
    8conrart

    An emotional stirring war movie.

    This movie creates a lot of emotion and makes you sympathize with the characters.
    8chong_an

    A good historical re-creation of a Chinese "Alamo"

    In 1937, WW2 has started for China, with the Japanese invasion. On the southern front, the Chinese army has abandoned a ruined Shanghai, except for one warehouse. This is defiantly defended by one regiment of about 800 troops, where seasoned professionals are reinforced by raw recruits of varying eagerness. The warehouse has 2 attributes: used as a bank vault, it has extra-thick walls; and it is across a small river from the English Concession. The foreign concessions are considered foreign territories by the Japanese, who try to avoid touching them. Thus we have the juxtaposition of a battlefield with a bustling, well-lit area, where crowds hang around the riverside street to watch the action, and the privileged (including foreign press photographers) watch from the balconies.

    The movie alternates between the warehouse action, and the events in the concession. In and around the warehouse, the action includes close combat, snipers, and occasional speeches. It is refreshing to see a Chinese action movie without martial arts. While there is blood and bandages, it is not the gorefest some western directors seem to like. There some of the Chinese soldiers are featured, whereas on the Japanese side only one commander had any speaking role. The switching to the concession side gives the audience a break from the action, and keeps the narrative fresh.

    This was based on actual historical events, and the movie included a final shot of the warehouse - with a backdrop of modern Shanghai skyscrapers. I read that the movie's opening was delayed, so that scenes of the national government could be cut. This government, or its successors, still govern the rebel island of Taiwan. But for the flag-raising scene, it was still the historically-accurate sun-in-sky national flag that went up.
    6ryanpersaud-59415

    Do Not Watch the Dub. Seriously.

    The Good: I think it's safe to say that the film's highlight is the expertly crafted and powerful action scenes. This movie is clearly trying to recall and homage Chinese war stories of old and it does a really good job of doing that, visually. The action scenes are fantastic and I was surprised as to how tasteful the blood and gore was here; I sorta went into this expecting a brutal ride.

    Initially, I felt the film's lack of character development was a negative. On reflection, I think this might be a cultural bias on my part and also not entirely appropriate for the story. American war films tend to focus on individual(s) for storytelling and emotional purpose. I think this approach, focusing on a group of basically unremarkable people, is actually a really effective way of making this battle feel like...well, a battle in a larger conflict. That while this moment mattered, ultimately, the war was not won that day.

    I also have to applaud the set and costume designers...WOW. The International Concession set is so immaculate and bursting with life, I felt transported into the past when watching those scenes. The contrast with the abandoned, decaying warehouse is truly striking.

    The Bad: I'm a little conflicted as to whether or not to include this, but the dub of this movie is absolutely terrible. I felt like I was watching extended video game cut scenes; the voice actors almost never sound appropriate for what it happening on screen. Again, I don't know if this is fair or not, but the dubbing made what was supposed to be emotionally powerful into a farce.

    However, this criticism will be universal, whether you're watching the English dub or Chinese original. This movie is as subtle as a brick through a window. I understand what this particular time in history means for Chinese people, but damn...is this as propagandistic as they come. It's sometimes hard to take seriously and yes, I acknowledge culture plays a part in this.

    The Ugly: On that point, this movie's ra-ra patriotism may be a bit refreshing for audiences who have come to expect war films to be, by default, "anti-war." Surely this movie isn't pro-war, but it's realistic in that it acknowledges war is a part of the human story and sometimes, the unjust thing to do is to shy away.
    6Horror_Flick_Fanatic

    Visually Cinematic and gritty

    The visuals of this film are artistically cinematic and very gritty. It's a beautiful picture with tons of on screen action. The director adds so many simultaneous events in each frame that it kept my eyes busy scanning the periphery to take it all in. This film has high budget written all over it. From the sets, customs, cgi, special effects and large cast it's very impressive. You can also see a lot of American and European cinematic influences in the film. Especially during the flag raising which was reminiscing of Iwo Jima flag raising. The gory firefights and sniper kills gets your heart running.

    Where the film falls short are the many overdrawn patriotic speeches and at first they are cool but become long on the tooth in this 3+ hour film which actually felt like four hours or more. Many scenes don't add much to the story and I think distracts from the film. I think this film could use an editor to shorten the film a bit and clear up the story.

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    • Anecdotes
      One line of the film mentioned that the 800 from the 88th division have received German military equipment. That is only partial information as that division was trained by German military advisers who were helping China's government since 1927.
    • Gaffes
      When the journalists are setting up their cameras in front of the warehouse, several news outlets are named. One of them is AFP (Agence France-Presse), but the company was created seven years later in 1944.
    • Autres versions
      The original cut set to be premiered in 2019's Shanghai International Film Festival is 160-minutes long. The re-censored version, which got finally released in 2020, is only 147-minute, with many replaced shots and multiple scenes blown-up and cropped.
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      Referenced in Radio Dolin: Hollywood surrenders to Asian movies, Sorokin's new novel and best role for Khodchenkova (2021)

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 28 août 2020 (Canada)
    • Pays d’origine
      • China
    • Sites officiels
      • Huayi Tencent Entertainment
      • Koch Media (Germany)
    • Langues
      • Chinese
      • Japanese
      • English
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • The Eight Hundred
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Shanghai, Chine(Defense of Sihang Warehouse)
    • sociétés de production
      • Huayi Brothers Media
      • The Seventh Art Pictures
      • Tencent Pictures
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    • Budget
      • 80 000 000 $ US (estimation)
    • Brut – États-Unis et Canada
      • 372 755 $ US
    • Fin de semaine d'ouverture – États-Unis et Canada
      • 118 161 $ US
      • 30 août 2020
    • Brut – à l'échelle mondiale
      • 461 421 559 $ US
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    • Durée
      2 heures 29 minutes
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    • Rapport de forme
      • 2.35 : 1

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