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Olivia Thirlby in The White Orchid (2018)

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The White Orchid

49 opiniones
4/10

Stylish, insubstantial, disappointing

As premises go, it's thin: Claire is a freelance investigator for the San Luis Obispo Country Department of Social Services who finds relatives and family members of those who die alone with no known heirs. (Aside: if the count government had such investigators, they'd be working for the probate court, but never mind). Claire is assigned the case of an unidentified murder victim known only as the White Orchid who was killed in a particularly grisly way. She is only supposed to identify the victim and leave the actual murder investigation to the police. Since Claire is a brunette who immediately presents as plain, timid, and inhibited, of course she dives into not only the murder investigation, but the identity of the victim, who was a stylish and (bi)sexually uninhibited blonde bombshell. Just because a movie's premise is thin and implausible doesn't mean the movie can't be good or even great: Hitchcock's Vertigo, which this movie alludes to several times with all the subtlety of a jackhammer tearing up concrete, seems similarly silly on paper, but delivers a great experience to its viewers in its visual style, great performances and direction, and a memorable soundtrack. White Orchid only has visual style going for it. Direction and soundtrack are undistinguished, while the performances are pretty bad, which isn't so much an annoyance as it is a puzzler, since many of these actors are capable of good or even outstanding work (an exception is Nichelle Nichols, who turns in a tiny gem of a performance as a shut-in retiree). It doesn't take long before the viewer realizes what this movie wants to be, and how far short of its goal it fell. You may stay with it for the (unfortunately predictable) plot twists, or you may turn it off before that. I stayed with it despite realizing I would be disappointed.
  • bud-morans
  • 28 mar 2019
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5/10

Poor Person's "Basic Instinct"

Northern California - check Crazy women - check Hot women - check (debatable) Psychological thriller - Check (debatable) Hot Lesbian Love - Check (kind of) Crazy cop - yes Crazy doctor - yes Crazy insane Italian sports car - check Terrible dialogue - CHECK Awful wigs/disguises - check Confusing as hell story - check check check Femme fatale buddying you with old lady - check!

You get the drift.
  • stuart-788-670704
  • 12 jul 2020
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5/10

Little to pedestrian

White Orchid is a visually striking neo-noir that falls short of its potential. While the setup is intriguing, the story lacks complexity, with puzzle pieces fitting together too easily and a predictable resolution. The protagonist's transformation feels rushed and unearned, undermining the emotional weight of the narrative. Though the cinematography captures the noir aesthetic well, the lack of meaningful twists and moral ambiguity makes the film feel overly simplistic. Ultimately it's watchable but fails to leave a lasting impression. The film also overstretches the protagonists beauty focusing more on showcasing her body than meaningful dialogue.
  • yhrkvy
  • 25 nov 2024
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2/10

Not worth your time

Funny how this got such a high rating. This is just to show that nowdays you can't trust ratings... Very B production with very B actors with very C acting... So naive, like a 19 year old girl is investigator, then discovers something without any evidence... looks ridiculous with blonde wig and we're supposed to accept her as Femme Fatale? Oh, speaking of Femme Fatale, this is just someone trying to be Brian De Palma... but failing. So stay away. Boring...
  • dalanik
  • 31 oct 2018
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7/10

It's Not That Bad

This movie is a slow burn but clever. The acting was good, it's filmed well and if you can embrace the pace of it, it will hold your attention. The script needed a bit of work but it wasn't unbearable. I've seen where some folks didn't care for the way it ended but I liked it. I'd suggest it to my friends.
  • Foutainoflife
  • 13 nov 2018
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loose ends? Plot twists - more like a plot derailment!

Don't waste your time - not a worthwhile movie.

I can not figure out how this poor attempt at a "film noir" got such a high rating. It is short (1 hr 52 min) and wanders around at the beginning then rushes the ending with what the author must have thought was a plot twist. It is so rushed it leaves loose ends laying around.

The lack of a plot leaves me to believe that it was either the first attempt at a film or was on such a low budget the production could figure how to tie off the various open ends. The climax is so poorly constructed and rushed it doesn't answer what happened.

I started watching it because I went to Cal Poly; I wanted to turn it off after 20 minutes but my wife was doing the ironing and wanted to see if there were more shots of SLO,
  • thegreatarranger
  • 9 feb 2019
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5/10

disappointing

The story has potential. The main character "shy investigator" is not credible at all as an investigator. The loud exhaling she does is just plain bad and annoying.
  • catherinelaplace
  • 23 nov 2018
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7/10

White Orchid, Black Dahlia

This is a pretty good modern film noir. The old staple of having the detective become obsessed with the murdered woman here gets an update by having the detective be a woman as well. Olivia Thirlby (Juno) in the lead role does fine as the detective, but is less convincing when she transforms herself later on -- but perhaps her character would be less convincing in that state. John Carroll Lynch (Fargo, Zodiac) is reliable as always as the sheriff saddled with Thirlby's investigation. And there are other familiar faces from the past - Jennifer Beals, Brendan Sexton III, and Lt. Uhuru from Star Trek. All in all, if you like your film noir in color, this movie is well worth a try.
  • Minnesota_Reid
  • 5 nov 2018
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1/10

An Honest Review

It starts off kind of slow and then never really picks up.

But, the lead does a great job of appearing smug and not at all interested in actually showing up to work and acting. Her character is supposed to be shy, but really she looks bored. Very, very, very bored.

But she manages to keep that look for the duration of the film.

The good news is that I am sure it matches the viewers
  • generationofswine
  • 20 ene 2019
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7/10

Claire Decker: Crime Solver

  • lavatch
  • 4 abr 2023
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4/10

C script, B- direction, inadequate lead actress

I am a bit loathe to criticize a young actor, but ... I know me some acting, and good for her she got job and paycheck, but Ms Thirlby does not command her part or hold up the film as lead. And together with the otherwise in several ways failed realization of a being a good modern 'noir', this movie is a failed use of budget or much of your attention. Even though the script and directing are not tops, all the other actors do their parts well. And yes, as others have stated, Ms Beals shines as always. I wonder if this is an example of using the advantage of blinded male control. Ms Thirlby openly states her bi-sexuality, and is very relaxed and natural in that onscreen. Did that unduly gain her the lead? Otherwise I can see her 'thinking' and visibly 'controlling' her acting, be a 'small' presence on screen, and not commanding as the lead detective/character. And together with her acting, hair and makeup, Ms Thirlby, contrary to the needs of plot and film, is an unconvincing blonde 'beauty' (she is a lovely person and figure in her own self). I was fascinated not because it was good.
  • grauwulf24-85-731094
  • 9 abr 2019
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9/10

Did they see the same film that I saw?

White Orchid (2018) was written and directed by Steve Anderson. It stars Olivia Thirlby as Claire, an independent investigator who often works for the county department of social services.

A woman has been horribly butchered by someone. Of course, that's the job of the sheriff, not social services. However, in California, the law says that if there are no relatives, social services must investigate as well.

Claire takes the case, and travels to the site of the woman's death, and has access to the home she had rented. What follows next does, indeed, fall into the classic category of "girl detective." However, the way the movie plays out, there's much more to it than that.

The most striking part of the movie for me was how director Anderson and Olivia Thirlby managed Claire's transition from a quiet, almost mousy character into a highly feminine, desirable woman. Of course, Olivia Thirlby is strikingly beautiful, so the trick wasn't to make her attractive, but to make her unattractive at the beginning of the film. It couldn't have been easy, but they did it.

The movie is one of those films where at the end, you say, "OK--who was the dead woman, and who killed her? People walk out of the movie trying to make sense of it. Director Anderson was in the theater for Q&A, and he says that all the clues are there, but he wouldn't tell us the answer. (Of course he knows the answer--he wrote the script.)

OK--but even if you're not quite sure about the loose ends of the plot, the film holds your interest throughout. The California scenery is beautiful and the acting is excellent.

We saw this movie at the great Little Theatre as part of The Rochester High Falls Women's Film Festival. It won't work quite as well on the small screen, because you'll miss the glorious scenery. Even so, it's worth finding and seeing.

"What movie did they see?" This film has a terrible IMDb rating of 5.0, with 224 ratings. It's not a great movie that will be remembered forever, but it's much better than 5.0. I suggest you see it and decide for yourself.
  • Red-125
  • 13 nov 2018
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6/10

claire tries to solve the murder

With some similarities to the actual black dahlia case from the 1940s, which was never solved.... this was written and directed by steve anderson. Claire (olivia thirlby) is sent to a small town on the coast to investigate the murder of a young, un-identified single woman. When she meets the local sheriff (john lynch, who we know from fargo), she doesn't trust him, and realizes she is on her own. Some fun roles for well known faces... jennifer beals is vivian. Nichelle nichols (lieutenant uhura !) is teresa, friend of the deceased woman. It's okay. It's a little more melodramatic than it needs to be, and the wigs and make-up claire uses make her look like a drag queen. And we really didn't need to spend so long watching the band in the bar about an hour in... that kind of took away from the noir feeling of the story. The first three quarters of the film run in a straight forward fashion, but the ending feels like it was an extra big twist ending , or maybe changed around from what it was originally. Confusing. Produced in association with the humphrey bogart estate. Anderson seems to be employed or partnered with santana productions, which was also the name of bogart's boat. As of today, this is the last project listed for anderson. He also directed the big empty, which is good but also has an odd, mysterious ending. Seems to be his specialty.
  • ksf-2
  • 15 jun 2022
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2/10

just bad

Incredibly brainless, not sure how this film made it to the screen, the main character is on a spectrum. the only reason I gave it 2 stars because I like Jennifer Beals.
  • Anastasia97
  • 7 jul 2019
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1/10

Don't bother

Poor acting, boring script that lead no where. Do not recommend.
  • msjessica-67493
  • 20 ene 2019
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6/10

Competent neo-Noir with some flaws

Already the title of the movie conveys that this is going to be a noir experience, and while the beginning seems a little inauspicious in that regard, setting us up with a mousy-looking female protagonist instead of a weary and cynical male one, as is usual for this kind of genre, it does pay off as the character undergoes an unexpected arc and the movie's intrigues get more perplexing.

The cinematography and acting is pretty solid, but not outstanding. I liked the music, and the story was not bad, even if it got quite a bit far-fetched toward the end.

My main points of criticism are that the transition from the nerdy investigator to bombshell blonde was somehow not truly convincing, and that the protagonist and especially villain's actions toward the end seemed rather preposterous. In fact, the self-congratulatory tone of the exchanges between them at the end turned me a bit off.

In addition, due to the similarity of this movie's title with the erotic film "Wild Orchid", it sets up audience expectations for steamy love scenes, of which there is just one, and by erotic film standards it is more on the tame side.

All in all, not a bad diversion, but it could have been better.
  • Armin_Nikkhah_Shirazi
  • 20 feb 2022
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3/10

Oh dear

This movie had potential, a lot of really good actors and actresses except for the main female Olivia Thirlby, such bad acting, such a shame they couldn't find someone that could do the part justice. Needless to say you will never remember her or see her in anything with substance.
  • vmm-44628
  • 7 nov 2018
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7/10

Good film

I actually enjoyed this more than I thought I would. I think the score of 5 is a little harsh. It was a better idea than execution. For me, there was a decent build up of intensity and intrigue, but once we found out the killers motive, for me that fell really flat. After all that, I expected something amazing, but I was like, 'oh ok'. Some parts of the film needed a bit more depth, some characters were just randomly placed. Her friend and her neighbour needed more substance. But overall I enjoyed it. The very end was good
  • bangel3322
  • 23 mar 2019
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2/10

Cheap Depalma / Hitchcock knockoff

The references to Vertigo and Body Double are glaring, but this film is nowhere near that level. Olivia Thirlby turns in one of the worst performances I've ever seen. A high school kid from an acting class could have done better. Of course, the silly plot couldn't have been saved even by a skilled actress. The lead character morphs inexplicably from a mousy social services investigator to a dressed-to-kill lesbian. It's absurd. Pretty much a total failure of the "shaking your head in disgust" variety.
  • rhefner2002
  • 17 sep 2020
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7/10

Watch The White Orchid, Twice!

Claire Decker is a character that slowly becomes "The Killer", in appearance only. She must find the true killer, identity search takes second in the investigation. She is much more intelligent than the local police authorities and discovers carefully hidden clues and plot McGuffins that send the film in more than one direction.

Olivia, the star, is more than up for the part of Claire and I hope to see her again...as Claire. Frankly, I don't know which one of the "five" killers she metamorphosis's into I like the best. The only down side is Claire being pegged as a lesbian, whereas Jessica is all over the place.

I truly wish we could see "Claire/Olivia" again. San Luis Obispo, Morro Bay, Jessica's rental and San Francisco co me off extremely well. My hat's off to the Cinematographer.
  • dtick-83551
  • 7 ene 2022
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4/10

Hard to believe

The story makes little sense but the acting gives it some validity. I.got bored rather quickly. Olivia Thirlby rescues it from complete boredom. Can't we get a better script?
  • fmwongmd
  • 28 dic 2018
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8/10

Ignore the reviews--they're all over the place anyway

Just watch the movie. It's less than 90 mins. Make up your own mind. One gauge of mine is how many times I check my phone while watching a film on premium tv. Just once during this film so it certainly had my attention.
  • scott-1657
  • 2 ene 2019
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2/10

Yikes

Bad acting. Terribly corny dialogue. The smugness of the main character makes her unlikable. She starts off shy and then unconvincingly becomes very self-satisfied. I like dynamic characters in movies but this just didn't work. The corny dialogue between two smug characters towards the end was just dreadful. You shouldn't be able to so clearly see what a movie is trying to be. It's sort of like talking to someone who is clearly trying to be cool.
  • jared-95517
  • 26 oct 2021
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1/10

Terrible acting. Bad movie

The acting was terrible. The plot was contrived. One really poor movie. Could have been a decent film noir. It failed.
  • andyny-18817
  • 31 dic 2018
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3/10

very hackneyed

I'm a bit confused by the sheriff's uniform ... he wears sgt stripes on his sleeve and 4 stars on his collar ... you can fool some of the people but not all ... this film is so stupid i really didn't want to review it ... it appears as if the writer came up with a cool title and tried to fabricate a story to fit it... it definitely isn't worth the 5 minutes it took to write this.
  • sandcrab277
  • 5 oct 2021
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