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Val Kilmer in Conspiracy (2008)

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Conspiracy

62 opiniones
4/10

Think Road House meets Billy Jack...but not in a good way

This was pretty abysmal, and all things considered, I probably should have known better when it said written and directed by Adam Marcus. Except that I had no idea who Adam Marcus was. Given his track record, justifiably so. The depressing part isn't so much the plot (which was written by your little brother in crayons), as much as it was watching Val Kilmer sink to new lows in his otherwise mostly storied career. When I tried to rationalize why Val Kilmer would stoop to the level of this ostensibly lost A-Team episode script directed by appointed directors like Marcus, all I could come up with would be his contempt for the real world equivalent to the radical right-wing Minutemen-like goons littering this pseudo-entertaining steaming pile of straight-to-vid. As it turns out, I was at least partially right, Kilmer did this movie for personal/political reasons (according to the related trivia).

I would write a summary, except I'm loath to spending more than the 90 minutes I already wasted watching it. You've seen it before, except this time it isn't Steven Seagal fighting for the rights of Native Americans, or Billy Jack fighting for the hippie commune, it's Val Kilmer fighting against a shoestring budget, and implied Halliburton employees as laughably stereotypical rednecks for the sake of immigrant rights and liberal ideology. A great cause, but ill-conceived and poorly executed here.

But don't take my word for it, no really. I want someone else to have to endure what I did.
  • orthodoxhedonist
  • 8 mar 2008
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5/10

I enjoyed it ... there, I said it!

  • terence_laoshi-1
  • 7 may 2008
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4/10

Unconvincing and boring

Basic plot: a colorful person finds himself presented with a conspiracy involving the disappearance of a friend. Been done many times and can be very entertaining. But this is not "Bad Day at Black Rock"! First of all, Kilmer is clearly too old to play a crack marine. And he is seriously overweight and stiff. He comes across as grumpy rather than sinister. The setting is just as unconvincing: Supposedly this is a new town being built in the middle of nowhere using cheap Mexican labor. Yet many of the buildings are wild west era in style. Its obviously a generic western movie set, possibly located on Kilmer's own ranch. A 19th century "Dance Hall" is reached by a dirt street with a speed limit sign stuck in the earth, yet its flat as an airport runway. And its not a revitalized ghost town either. Everything is new, as though they just finished shooting an episode of Bonanza. Only the horse trough is missing. The small cast is comprised of stock characters: a young snotty cop who seems to be the entire police department, a beautiful girl running a dollar store with a precious little daughter, naturally terrified of telling the truth. She runs a lending library...with books! No vcrs, no dvds in this town although they have cable TV. Who thinks this stuff up? You are expected to suspend disbelief for dramas but when one anachronism is piled upon another goof on top of a plot hole, its difficult to take the story seriously. And the predictable story grinds on and on like a celluloid glacier. Go to the loo or make coffee, you wont miss anything. I hope this isn't an indication of the direction Kilmers career is taking as he is capable of much better. If you like daffy plots, watch a Steven Segal movie: at least they are entertaining.
  • aventer-1
  • 12 mar 2008
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1/10

waste of time

this film was one of the biggest wastes of time ever. The characters were stone cold val kilmer especially. the plot was rubbish the acting was quite rubbish all the way through. the production looks good but the script and acting was some of the worst i have seen.

The story itself had a bit of potential but the follow though just didn't seem 2 happen. It seemed like the Americans pretending they want to save the native Americans. The rednecks characters were so stereotypical for small town America but they just made them the stupidest stereotypes so you would not even believe them. I suggest never seeing this film
  • pureskills2
  • 17 mar 2008
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1/10

Seagalesque

This movie sucked. I mean... wow. I surely didn't expect a masterpiece. But the actual level of suckitude left me speechless and almost breathless, as if my body was trying to rescue itself into sweet unconsciousness. It reminded me, and heavily at that, of Steven Seagal. But not the Seagal of "Under Siege" or "On Deadly Ground", who we all came to love. No, I mean the Steven Seagal who brought us straight-to-video suckfests like "Black Dawn".

Val Kilmer, like Seagal, is just a blimp, floating through the foggy remains of a story, while it rains wooden puppets. Who of course are the other actors in my weird little analogy.

Every little thing in this movie is bad and sucks in ways where there are no more words to articulate a warning. So let me just say this: DO NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE! Thank you for your attention.
  • xnrat
  • 7 ago 2008
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5/10

Fair action film

  • mnhooper
  • 1 jul 2014
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6/10

Bringing Hell to God's Land

  • claudio_carvalho
  • 10 may 2008
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1/10

Bad propaganda

It's kinda like Rambo, but instead of a cut Sly, it has a bloated, and practically sleepwalking Val Kilmer. And instead of real police baddies and the national guard, it's neo-Nazi western sheriffs and the extras from Blazing Saddles. Instead of Rambo resisting arrest, wigging out and escaping into the forest, MacPheron asks a question, drops a napkin and the whole town freaks, arrests him, pummels him in his jail cell and tries to eradicate all trace of him so that the denizens of God's country can feel safe under Rhode's wild west town/Haliburton occupation.

My favorite scene is when Val, sporting a black tank top, manages to kill several fully armed cowboys in the wide open spaces in broad daylight by lobbing kitchen knives sidearm. "Damn it; I can't see him. He's like a ghost!" Truly terrible, and it reduces the complex issues of war and illegal immigration to the most radically liberal propaganda points, depicting Arizonans as twisty mustached bigots who can't wait to kill Mexicans. Where's the anti-defamation league when you need them?
  • valdemar1516
  • 26 mar 2008
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7/10

Well, at least people were cut up

  • pageiv
  • 21 mar 2008
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1/10

This film is a shameless rip-off!!!

Director Adam Marcus and his co-writer Debra Sullivan should be sued for the shameless way they have STOLEN the plot of John Sturges' 1955 film Bad Day at Black Rock, and turned it into this mediocre garbage. I'm all for films that pay homage and draw inspiration from other movies, but this is a rip-off, plain and simple. If you were to remove everything that was lifted directly from Bad Day at Black Rock (as well as the stuff "borrowed" from First Blood), you would have a movie that only runs about 13 minutes. To make matters worse, this film is sub-par mediocrity at best. It would be one thing if Marcus had a modicum of talent, and could at least make it seem like this was not a total act of cinematic plagiarism, but he can't even do that.
  • hnic_68
  • 25 mar 2008
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8/10

actually very good

oh dear, it seems that quite a few gung ho Americans don't like films that point out the way big companies thrive on war and make lots of money out of it by supplying the goods to make war possible and then make even more money by rebuilding the mess they made.

Don't let their innate bias put you off watching this film as it is a actually pretty good (apart from the ending 5 minutes which looked suspiciously like the studio waded in and made the director make a Segal / Van Damme type over the top conclusion). We actually rented the film because we thought it would be good stupid fun like a Segal film with lots of Saturday night 'whizzbangpoppery' but there is a lot more to it than that - I was starting to say that it reminded me a fair bit of a classic Clint Eastwood spaghetti Western when lo and behold! - turns out the name of the town is Lago - the same name as in High Plains Drifter!! Someone with enough intelligence and respect (writer or Director?) to sneakily name check a reference has got much more going on than the people who have dismissed the film cos they don't like the politics.

So my advice is definitely worth renting - if you are a fan of thoughtful action films and like those classic Clint westerns cos this is a modern cousin of them. Enjoy
  • biffertron
  • 24 ene 2009
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7/10

Shane with a bit of Cat Ballou

The good guys are good and the bad guys are real bad. Val Kilmer plays a one-legged Billy Jack in a nice twist on a story that will continue forever. Former special forces bad-ass who doesn't want to fight no-more gets roped into an evil environment (with a Dick Cheney clone as Darth Vader) and he finally gets pushed a little too far. He moves fast invisibly "Like a ghost" - with one leg. Works as well here as in old-fashioned radio theater.

Low-budget and thus sparse but well done with myriad close-ups and all characters as caricatures. There is no pretense of realism and thus it works as a comic book on screen. Screenplay, direction, camera work and acting are all at least interesting.
  • jsorenson777
  • 27 jun 2008
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4/10

Frustration

Val's character maintains a deadpan countenance throughout being blown to bits in Iraq, lifelessly engaging with hookers, and then getting beat down mercilessly by hateful gringos in Arizona who murdered his war buddy & family in cold blood. Wickedness dominates throughout so that even when he finally fights back, its anti-climactic, although he does do some slick special ops ghost work on some of those slimey pukes. There's a scene where the ditzy chick points a pistol at the arch baddie, and instead of immediately squeezing off multiple rounds, she dialogs with him, yakkity-yakking long enough for a henchman to come up behind her and take the gun. That scene is representative of how hard this movie is to watch. All that can be said positively about this movie is that it has Val Kilmer in it.
  • compugor
  • 13 oct 2021
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5/10

Pointless Day at Black Rock

This film is a pale imitation of the Spencer Tracy classic. It lacks the injustice, irony and clarity of the original. The film also lacks the menace and stifling tension of the Spencer Tracy version.

Tracy was tougher though more vulnerable than Kilmer. The original contained startling, precise violence against realistic bad guys. Tracy remains fearful but steadfast. Kilmer is fearless but on his journey fights against cartoon characters and takes too many beatings.

Having said all that the film is quite entertaining. Val Kilmer portrays a tough marine well and the film builds up nicely to the final crisis. The end itself is a bit soppy.

The original Bad Day at Black Rock is probably one of the finest films ever made. It made important political and civil rights points about freedom and justice. This remake is not in the same league and is unnecessary. watch.
  • tcowell56
  • 22 nov 2013
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5/10

Seem familiar?

  • dwpenn
  • 1 mar 2012
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5/10

Val Kilmer beats up racist scum

The plot: A former marine, trying to find out what happened to his friend, runs up against racist vigilantes.

I've never actually been that big of a Val Kilmer fan, but I'm willing to watch his movies. Unfortunately, as some people have already mentioned, this movie shares more than a few similarities to Steven Seagal's direct-to-video movies. It's got a left-leaning political message, an aging and out-of-shape movie star, and some truly awful dialogue.

I'm not going to lie. This is not a good movie. It's completely lacking in subtlety, one of the characters goes on a long political rant in the middle of the movie, and the fight choreography was not very impressive. However, I agree with the politics, I like Gary Cole, and I guess I'm a sucker for these cheesy direct-to-video movies. I'm willing to overlook a lot of things as long as I don't get bored.

I can't really recommend this movie to other people, but I found it a lot more tolerable than most reviewers. If you're a liberal, you're looking to waste 90 minutes, and you're a fan of Val Kilmer... well, maybe then you might want to see this movie, but you'd still have to be pretty desperate.
  • krachtm
  • 16 mar 2013
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6/10

Not bad for a remake

First, let's get this straight: CONSPIRACY is a straightforward, modern-day remake of the Spencer Tracy classic, BAD DAY AT BLACK ROCK. Val Kilmer takes on the Tracy role, playing an outsider who arrivals in a small town to track down his missing friend. Turns out that everybody knows something, but nobody's saying anything.

I liked this film for the most part because it avoids clichés and it doesn't rely on cheesy action to propel the storyline. After the prologue, the first hour or so is engaging and suspenseful, building up a level of intrigue that most B-movies rarely attempt. There's an air of mystery hanging over the whole production and you actively want to find out what's going on.

Gradually, the story does fizzle out a bit as it progresses, and the last half hour resorts to the usual clichés: massive shoot-outs, showdowns in the desert, bad guys getting just deserts, and so on. The cast members are adequate for this production; Kilmer is at least trying as the former soldier suffering from PTSD, while Gary Cole can do this sinister villain stuff in his sleep by now.

The biggest disappointment is from Adam Marcus, the director. This is a guy who worked once since 1993's JASON GOES TO HELL, and his lack of experience shows. The dialogue scenes are passable, but the action sequences are hellishly bad. It appears they ran out of money for stunts or decent choreography because the action is all over the place and a real mess, sapping enjoyment at the showdown which should be a bit of glorious vengeance. Still, CONSPIRACY gets a lot of kudos from me for the first hour...
  • Leofwine_draca
  • 13 jul 2013
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3/10

Bad remake

  • mikb333
  • 11 mar 2009
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7/10

Good, Action and Drama

The word "conspiracy" secret plan to commit a crime and this has been portrayed in the this good, action, drama, movie which is more, or, less, in a style of good western style.

A soldier in the US Marines is wounded during a raid on a small house, in a town in Iraq - he loses a limb and leaves the marines. He then constantly has nightmares about the incident but keeps on receiving calls from a friend of his asking him for help in a town named New Lago. Eventually, he decides to go.

Val Kilmer, after a long time, has made a come back and this time in an action, drama, movie genre. The settings of the movie are those of a typical western town and people wearing cowboy hats but that is a part of the set and it suits it very much.

Eeventhough, the movie does contain some nudity and bloody scenes, it is one that is worthwhile to watch.
  • Pratik112
  • 7 mar 2008
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2/10

WOW What A Bad Movie

This is one of the worst movies I have ever seen. I was HIGHLY disappointed by the acting, especially from Val Kilmer....he's a much better actor than the job he does in this movie.

I was also disappointed in the so-called special effects they had in this movie. To me, this movie looked like a garbage low-budget 80s flick that we can definitely live without.

I think this movie even gives small, corrupt, towns a bad name because the acting was so bad in it, lol. I honestly can't recall a worse movie, acting-wise, than this one since this movie was supposed to be a serious movie.

I just want to know what was going through Val Kilmer's mind when he accepted this role. He's far too talented to lower his standards so much....at least I thought so.
  • Mamou317
  • 22 jul 2008
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7/10

Strange...I've seen that plot before...

"Conspiracy" has Val Kilmer playing an traumatized Marine who searches for his best friend, another Marine, who disappeared in a small town where no one seems to know about him and are not warm in terms of welcoming people who are not from there. The local residents of this city à-la Old West style built by a powerful businessman (Gary Cole) will do anything to bother Kilmer and his obstinate search.

An more experienced viewer will have one title popping on his head while watching this: "Bad Day at Black Rock". Yes, "Conspiracy" amazingly resembles the 1955 film directed by John Sturges starring Spencer Tracy as the mysterious one armed man who defeats a whole town just to deliver an medal to an soldier friend of his. Both stories deal with small towners prejudices against foreigners; both stories have an main character who is handicapped in a way and somehow this isn't an adversity at all; and both plots take place in desert areas. What makes the older film better than the new one (this isn't a remake however) is the originality and the tension presented there, the mystery was more gripping. What is presented in this recent project is an action film with lots of shootings, bullets and knives flying, a simplistic story made to please an large audience who enjoys that kind of movie.

Nonetheless, it's a decent and enjoyable action film, the required elements for this genre are all present here, Kilmer is quite good as the Marine who needs to put his demons behind him, after an traumatic event that he testified during the war in Iraq, rebuilding himself in order to find out what happened to his friend. Since most viewers really dislike old films, this is a nice substitute to Sturges film. But that one was an complete classic compared to this. 7/10
  • Rodrigo_Amaro
  • 2 mar 2012
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1/10

I wish I could give it negative stars

  • bigred1
  • 16 nov 2008
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3/10

Disappointing

I like this genre and I like Val Kilmer but this movie was really bad.
  • mrozman-1
  • 9 oct 2021
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3/10

More like Bad Day at Black Rick Meets Malone

  • MJBlazin
  • 18 sep 2021
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1/10

Lefty Spin Sinks Action!

  • vitaleralphlouis
  • 12 oct 2008
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