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The Second Civil War

  • Película de TV
  • 1997
  • R
  • 1h 37min
CALIFICACIÓN DE IMDb
6.6/10
2.5 k
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Dan Hedaya, Beau Bridges, Denis Leary, and Phil Hartman in The Second Civil War (1997)
Comedia oscuraSátiraComediaDrama

Agrega una trama en tu idiomaA simple immigration issue spins wildly out of control for those involved, ranging from the President of the United States, to a news producer.A simple immigration issue spins wildly out of control for those involved, ranging from the President of the United States, to a news producer.A simple immigration issue spins wildly out of control for those involved, ranging from the President of the United States, to a news producer.

  • Dirección
    • Joe Dante
  • Guionista
    • Martyn Burke
  • Elenco
    • Beau Bridges
    • Joanna Cassidy
    • Phil Hartman
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  • CALIFICACIÓN DE IMDb
    6.6/10
    2.5 k
    TU CALIFICACIÓN
    • Dirección
      • Joe Dante
    • Guionista
      • Martyn Burke
    • Elenco
      • Beau Bridges
      • Joanna Cassidy
      • Phil Hartman
    • 25Opiniones de los usuarios
    • 13Opiniones de los críticos
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    • Ganó 1 premio Primetime Emmy
      • 2 premios ganados y 3 nominaciones en total

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    Beau Bridges
    Beau Bridges
    • Gov. Jim Farley
    Joanna Cassidy
    Joanna Cassidy
    • Helena Newman
    Phil Hartman
    Phil Hartman
    • The President
    James Earl Jones
    James Earl Jones
    • Jim Kalla
    James Coburn
    James Coburn
    • Jack Buchan
    Dan Hedaya
    Dan Hedaya
    • Mel Burgess
    Elizabeth Peña
    Elizabeth Peña
    • Christina
    Denis Leary
    Denis Leary
    • Vinnie Franko
    Ron Perlman
    Ron Perlman
    • Alan Manieski
    Kevin Dunn
    Kevin Dunn
    • Jimmy Cannon
    Shelley Malil
    Shelley Malil
    • Congressman Singh
    Brian Keith
    Brian Keith
    • Maj. Gen. Charles Buford
    Kevin McCarthy
    Kevin McCarthy
    • Chief of Staff
    Dick Miller
    Dick Miller
    • Eddie O'Neill
    William Schallert
    William Schallert
    • Secretary of Defense
    Catherine Lloyd Burns
    Catherine Lloyd Burns
    • Amelia Sims
    Jerry Hardin
    Jerry Hardin
    • Col. McNally
    Larry Flash Jenkins
    Larry Flash Jenkins
    • Kenya Nkomo
    • Dirección
      • Joe Dante
    • Guionista
      • Martyn Burke
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    8Cirio

    Much more than a TV-movie

    "The Second American Civil War" appeared in the cinemas in Italy and caused many discussions probably because of the correspondences between its plot and the matter of secession in Northern Italy promoted by the Lega Nord party. Anyway, this movie is great for other reasons and deserved to be seen in the cinemas of any country. The only lack of the movie is the weakness of the characters such as the pathetic figure of the old wise journalist (James Earl Jones). However the real main character is the background, that is the society, the medias and the political class. Dante strikes all these categories with a brilliant and grotesque satire and represent all their contradictions.

    The influential News Net spread idiotic and mediocre message. The politicians only care about keeping their careers with the political tricks (the ultimatum mustn't interfere with the popular soap-opera). Finally Dante paints a society that can't find an alternative between "We are all brothers" and "This is my land and here I command".

    You MUST SEE it, if you have the chance because it is far the best movies of is genre (much better than "Wag the Dog")
    7Jithindurden

    Near-Prophetic

    Calling it the near future in the beginning without specifying the year worked great since this could've been the actual state of the USA a couple of years ago, being absolutely the black comedy in real life. The beginning of India nuking Pakistan was not something I expected from this movie. But then that leading to internal conflict in the US, then personal situations of politicians and the prejudices of people working together to make everything worse and worse as it went on all were really great ideas. Choosing to centre the movie in a newsroom so they can cover everywhere was also a great choice. There are just so many great ideas in this film and so many commentaries made. A lot of them worked and a lot of them didn't. It was a bit overcrowded. I feel like this would've worked better if it was much longer with more things grounding it to the narrative to let the messages speak for themselves. The whole wasn't really as great as the sum of the parts. There are many things in it that are shown like they are exposing stuff, while the direction makes it feel like even while showing such things, they are not understanding the actual complexities and believe in a more idealistic world without considering what should actually be done. It could also be attributed that a lot of these might be considered hyperbolic in the 90s while it feels much closer to reality now, so that may be why the very Americanised idealistic view the makers had that they were afraid to be broken. There are also many aspects of it that clearly show this is a pre-9/11 American movie, which couldn't have been part of such a movie afterwards.

    Overall, I loved a lot of it but thought some of it was pretty stupid. However, as a movie, it did work to get its point across, and being almost prophetic of how The US has become recently, it deserves appreciation, even though it has its fair share of flaws.
    7claudio_carvalho

    A Hilarious and Sad Tribute to the Politicians, Lobbyists and Press of a Warrior Nation

    In a near future, after the nuclear explosion of a bomb dropped by India in Pakistan, an American non-governmental group decides to bring the Iranians orphans to Idaho. The silly governor of Idaho (Beau Bridges) is the political opponent of the American president (Phil Hartman) and decides to not permit the immigration of the children to his state. Indeed his greatest concern is relative to his sexual and affective life with the American-Mexican journalist Christina (Elizabeth Peña) and he does not give much importance to his statement. The stupid president decides to follow the advice of Jack Buchan (James Coburn) and his advisors, and sends the U. S. Army to the border of Idaho, which is protected by the National Guard troops. Due to the last chapter of a famous soap opera, the president gives sixty-seven and half hours to Idaho permit the ingress of the children. The greatest American network covers all of this confusion in a sensationalist way. All of these absurd misunderstandings together culminate in the American Second Civil War. This movie is a great dark and dramatic comedy, made before the tragedy of September 11th. In Brazil, it was not promoted and I found the VHS by chance on sale. When I saw the name of Joe Dante and the cast, I decided to buy and watch it. It was a worthwhile entertainment. It is a sort of `tribute' to the politicians, lobbyists and press in USA, and without the participation of Michael Moore. Martyn Burke and Joe Dante explore the warrior spirit and the racial segregation of the American people, the immigration problem, the lack of common sense and the search for votes of the politicians, the unreasonable advices of lobbyists and civilians and military advisors and the performance of the manipulative press in a funny (and even sad) story. My vote is seven.

    Title (Brazil): `A Segunda Guerra Civil' (`The Second Civil War')
    bob the moo

    Interesting but rather obvious and neither as funny nor as clever as it needed to be

    It is the near future and a nuclear attack on Pakistan from India has left millions as refugees. As a planeload of orphans leaves for America, the Governor of Idaho declares Idaho's borders shut to immigrants. With one eye on the opinion poles, the President of the United States reacts with a strong hand and gives the Governor 67.5 hours to change his mind (thus avoiding a ratings clashing with a popular soap opera on a non-news channel). As a news network tries to engineer the best view of the action, events spiral out of control with racial tension being triggered in Texas and Los Angeles.

    I do not know which film came first but in 1997 this film was put out on TV at around the same time as Wag the Dog was released. Wag was a superb film that was very sharp and funny and it is to this film's detriment that it is very easy to compare the two. Although the plots are different they both satirise the media's influence on politics and politics' concern with image and winning votes and do so with a big cast and a mix of tension and laughs.

    However it is not as well carried off here as it was in Wag The Dog and it gets bogged down in rather sappy and obvious messages about acceptance of one another. In some way this is pointed out in funny ways such as Congressman Singh having a deep south accent, the Governor eating Mexican food for breakfast and in love with a Mexican woman; but too often it is obvious and a little sappy. This takes away its intelligence and makes it feel less clever than it really should be to be as sharp a satire as it clearly wants to be. On the flipside of this the film isn't nearly as funny as it should be – it has the occasional really funny bit (James Coburn suggesting that the Irish can be taken off birth control to outbreed the other races and thus win votes was akin to some of Dr Strangelove for my money!) but generally it is not as funny as it really should be.

    However I still really enjoyed it and felt it was both clever and funny and even if too much of it wasn't up to the standard of really good satire, it is still worth seeing. The cast echoes the ensemble feel of Wag The Dog even if it lacks a couple of really big names in the way Wag did. None of them really dominate the film or really stand out, instead they seem happy to share the lines and the screentime without overplaying – only Coburn really goes for it and makes a good impression on the film. Having said that the majority do OK with what little they have and it is hard to ignore a cast that features so many famous faces. CoBurn is great even if Hartman, surprisingly, fails to make much of an impact. Bridges but lumbered with much of the 'message' in later stages, Jones is worth seeing although it is Hedaya and Perlman who dominate the newsroom scenes. Leary makes the bridge between this and Wag and the rest of the cast features all manner of faces including Elizabeth Peña, Dick Miller, Kevin Dunn and Kevin McCarthy.

    Overall this is a good film but not as good as it should have been; for my money satire needs to be funny and clever and, while this manages to be both at times, it is not as consistent as it really should have been. It gets bogged down in the message and it loses it's edge when it really should be getting stronger and sharper. It is by no means as good as Wag the Dog but it is still worth a look as, although not consistent it is still interesting in its comments and is sporadically funny and clever.
    10sterhill-1

    brilliant movie banned by HBO?

    This movie was an original film made by HBO and was shown in 1997 and then disappeared.

    Why? Too many un-PC remarks is my guess. At one point Dan Hedaya (head of the CNN look-alike NetworkNews) yells that somebody needs to get the White House on the phone "unless Tokyo has foreclosed on it!". The story is brilliantly created and the cast is amazing.

    Look at the cast and ask yourself how this film could just disappear.

    The mayor of Los Angeles is giving a speech, and the newsroom is frantically looking for a translator. But NOT to translate into Spanish. No, to translate HIS speech into English.

    I say shame on HBO for letting this film slide into oblivion, You can still find it, used, on VHS but it never went to DVD. You cannot buy it from HBO.

    You gotta ask yourself why... Edited to add - now on DVD if you can find it.

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      Joe Dante has said this is the best film he's made and the best cast he worked with.
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      Governor of Idaho: I'm getting tired of all this moral high ground stuff. I prefer rolling around in the muck; you meet more interesting people there.

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      Featured in The 49th Annual Primetime Emmy Awards (1997)

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    • Fecha de lanzamiento
      • 15 de marzo de 1997 (Estados Unidos)
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      • Estados Unidos
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    • Locaciones de filmación
      • Los Angeles City Hall - 200 North Spring Street, Downtown, Los Ángeles, California, Estados Unidos
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      • Baltimore Pictures
      • HBO Films
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      • 1h 37min(97 min)
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