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El debut

Título original: Het debuut
  • 1977
  • 1h 34min
CALIFICACIÓN DE IMDb
5.8/10
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El debut (1977)
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La delicada historia del amor imposible entre un hombre mayor casado y una colegiala de catorce años.La delicada historia del amor imposible entre un hombre mayor casado y una colegiala de catorce años.La delicada historia del amor imposible entre un hombre mayor casado y una colegiala de catorce años.

  • Dirección
    • Nouchka van Brakel
  • Guionistas
    • Nouchka van Brakel
    • Carel Donck
    • Hester Albach
  • Elenco
    • Marina de Graaf
    • Gerard Cox
    • Pleuni Touw
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  • CALIFICACIÓN DE IMDb
    5.8/10
    588
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    • Dirección
      • Nouchka van Brakel
    • Guionistas
      • Nouchka van Brakel
      • Carel Donck
      • Hester Albach
    • Elenco
      • Marina de Graaf
      • Gerard Cox
      • Pleuni Touw
    • 7Opiniones de los usuarios
    • 7Opiniones de los críticos
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    Marina de Graaf
    Marina de Graaf
    • Carolien
    Gerard Cox
    • Hugo
    Pleuni Touw
    • Rita…
    Kitty Courbois
    • Anne…
    Dolf de Vries
    • Dr. Peter…
    Wendy Ferwerda
    • Susan
    Sandrien van Brakel
    • Tanja…
    Pieter Fleury
    • Jacques
    Joop Keesmaat
    Judith Hees
    Simone Ettekoven
    Hans Kemna
    Adrian Brine
    Adrian Brine
      Yvette Merlin
      Mathilde Willink
      Daco de la Bretonnière
      Arnoud R.H. Lauxtermann
        • Dirección
          • Nouchka van Brakel
        • Guionistas
          • Nouchka van Brakel
          • Carel Donck
          • Hester Albach
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        4qqvubqkpit

        She was 18

        I'm not sure what every one's complaint is. If my math is correct the young actress was 18 when doing this film. I don't know exactly when filming was, just the release date so it is possible that she was 17 3/4 or something. I doubt that made any difference in the Netherlands in the 70s anyways. Just because she says she's 14 it's called acting. If you want to complain check out what Mario van Peeples father made him do in the movie Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss when Mario was 14. It involves unsimulated sex with a woman who plays a prostitute in the film. Very strange film that would never have been made if not for Bill Cosby throwing his money into the film to be made. The Debut is much better film.
        6engels

        Daring theme spoiled by bad directing and acting

        Daring theme. I like that. A sexual relationship between an adult and a child/youngster. And without showing the child as merely a victim of an adult predator. The sex is wanted and enjoyed by both partners. At the same time, the movie does also not fall in the other extreme of showing the girl as basically a seductress. At the end, she can be seen as the victim of the relationship, but not because she was too young or too experienced to understand about sex. She is a victim because she was dreaming of more, of a lasting relationship. While he neither can nor wants to leave his wife. She is a victim like so many mistresses of married men are victims.

        Daring theme, yes. But when one looks further, little more positive can be said. The movie does not succeed in making the characters live. For a part this has to do with the plot, that keeps looking at the relationship from the outside, we do not really get to the inside of the characters, which is especially pitiful in the last third of the movie. But most is lost simply through bad acting and directing. Most obvious is this in the girl who plays Carolien's girlfriend. She seems to just be saying her lines, without any realization that these lines have some kind of emotional meaning. And that she should use a tone of voice that fits that meaning. And Marina de Graaf (Carolien) and several other supporting actors make a similar type of mistake. All in all, the movie is too much TELLING its story instead of SHOWING it.

        The idea is good, and has the possibility of giving a movie that leads to moral discussions amongst its viewers. But then one would need to give the viewer some interest in its characters first. And that's where this movie fails miserably. One can even wonder whether it HAS any characters.
        1lylogronio-896-478464

        exploitation of young girl by so called feminist director

        Appalled bij seeing pictures of a pretty young girl in cinemapromotion, only to draw more people to this very mediocre movie, directed by a self pronounced feminist director. Mind you, not appalled by the pictures, but by the way this female director made "this movie". . It is not even a mediocre coming of age movie, it is pure exploitation from a director who wanted obviously to make a big name with this movie. That she casted her own daughter as well in this movie also does not help at all. Pure garbage !!
        6jordondave-28085

        Like "Lolita" does not consist to have my favorite theme

        (1977) The Debut/ Het debuut (In Dutch with English subtitles) DRAMA

        Adapted from the novel by Hester Albach, co-written and directed by Nouchka van Brakel, it has 14 year old Carolien (Marina de Graaf) bike racing with her peers to the school. And when she come's back from school, she along with her parents of Peter (Dolf de Vries) and Anne (Kitty Courbois) are at the airport to greet her dad's old best friends just arriving from Zambia, Africa, Hugo (Gerard Cox) and his wife, Rita (Pleuni Touw). And as a result of Carolien agreeing to show them to look at a place she begins to sense a connection with Hugo when he began to jump on top of a bed like she was doing.

        Like most movies about adolescent s/he may look 14, but if imdb is correct that the actress playing Carolien by the name of Marina de Graaf that she was born in 1959 then she was already an adult when she played the role of an adolescent, for she would have been 19 years old during the movie's release. And may have been 18 when she played the role of a 14 year old when the age of consent in the Netherlands is according to Google is 16 years of age. And I get it, it's the notion of an older man making out with an underage almost twice her age can rub some viewers the wrong way, except that 1) like Lolita, it is adapted from an actual novel, and #2) I am presuming, without reading the novel, it is based on the character in which a 14 yrs old is required. And in the film it is supposed to depict a generation gap, as Carolien is young and active who still loves to eat chocolate bars, and dance in dance floors at a disco, too wild for an older person who lives with her parents.. As opposed to her older counterpart, Hugo who is besides being older, he is inactive with a job and a wife he has to take care of, for the only thing they both have in common is perhaps the love making, she yearned for maturity and maturity is what she got she felt she does not get that from her peers. There's a scene where a former peer attempts to make an advance towards her and she tries to make an attempt to reject his advances very adamently. The scene where Caroliene is ridiculed by her friends/ peers as a result of telling her best friend, Tanja (Sandrien van Brakel) making out with a guy old enough to be her dad which very slowly pushes them away from them if she continues to see him. She realizes the relationship can no longer proceed. What is asinine about this, was that at the beginning, Hugo appeared to be just as active and silly as much as Carolien but it's like, later on he's no longer that type of person anymore, which is it? In other words it's a cross between 1962 "Lolita" and the 1977 French film" Un moment d'égarement" or in English terms "Lolita" and "Blame It On Rio". I give this movie the same rating as I give "Lolita" which is a 6 out of 10 nothing more nothing less.
        5JD_Sydney

        Halfway watchable 70's film

        To understand this film it helps if you've seen the director's 1979 work "A Woman like Eve". Across the two films there's an obvious attempt to portray women's lives and emotions and also to make some comment on the mores of society (at that time).

        The film has a dated 70's look to it but it also makes it interesting in a time capsule kind of way. Is the nudity exploitative and there to help sell tickets? Or an attempt to break down taboos by showing it and asking "what's all the fuss about?" Seeing some of the director's other work makes me think the latter, though it's probably a bit of both.

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        • Trivia
          News of the film version began to pick up steam in November of 1976 when De Telegraph ran a full-page article on the film's casting. Nouchka van Brakel wanted an unknown for the lead as she considered it essential that the part not be played by a recognizable actress. A week before Christmas, 1976, De Telegraph announced the actress who Van Brakel had cast as Marina de Graaf.
        • Citas

          Carolien Sanders, Tanja: [singing in a Christmas play] The Child was born in one piece because the abortion clinic had been closed.

        • Conexiones
          Featured in Allemaal film: De magie van het witte doek (2007)
        • Bandas sonoras
          Het Debuut
          (theme music)

          Written by Theun de Winter

          Interpreted by Ron Westerbeek with the group Water

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        Detalles

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        • Fecha de lanzamiento
          • 18 de mayo de 1977 (Países Bajos)
        • País de origen
          • Países Bajos
        • Idioma
          • Holandés
        • También se conoce como
          • The Debut
        • Locaciones de filmación
          • Vossius Gymnasium, Ámsterdam, Holanda Septentrional, Países Bajos(Scenes at an highschool room, and the outside.)
        • Productoras
          • Sigma Film Productions
          • VHS
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          1 hora 34 minutos
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