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Well I just got out the theatre and let me say this:

Whereas the first movie was very gritty, dark, violent, this movie is very colorful, tacky and sassy.

Kind of dissapointing sequel if you compare it to the first. I guess it's a solid Sunday movie if you're bored and want to watch something. The first movie gave me a vibe similar to HEAT. This is like they tried to aim for the Italian Job. Wish they would've stuck with the Formula of the first movie. It worked. Don't know why they tried to change it so drastically and do a 180. The characters are not interesting at all and you don't really get invested like you did in the first part. Butler and Jackson's characters don't feel like the same guys from the first movie either. Could've been better. It's a ok-ish sequel.

Slap a different name or main characters on it and it's a passable action hiest movie, trying to call it a sequel to Den of Thieves is just disrespectful to the first one.

The first crew were tight, controlled, and meant business. In this one we have only Donnie and Nick and some generic stand ins who we don't know or get to know, so we don't care for them at all.

The action scenes in part 1 were phenomenal and well shot and acted. In this one they were sloppy and felt forced. Especially at the end of the car chase, truly after an all night drive to escape and THAT'S where they meet up with what's his face.... sure, that wasn't immensely convenient...

The heist itself wasn't terrible, it felt real enough with a few minor issues.

A staffing of 6 or so guards for the world diamond exchange.... 2 guys to clear the whole building???? They didn't even have radios when clearing ffs.

During the escape chase, the entire city of Nice is practicially empty because.... just because.

Ad placement takes on a whole new level of idiocy in most newer movies, this time Porsche (Volkswagen group) and Audi were the focus.

The ending also not very convincing, Nick does what he does and then just passes on this info that isn't even helpful... "sit back left" not a single shot fired and "back left" isn't actually a seat position, rear passenger or driver side is. Back left depends on your orientation.

Had anyone else delivered the info though it would've made more sense.

Den of Thieves: Pantera follows up Den of Thieves from 2018 but is not in the same league. It feels formulaic all the way though and a little forced. Not an awful movie but below the standard set by the original.

Gerard Butler returns and looks even less in shape with every passing movie, and this one seems to deal with this fact by giving his character food to shout past in almost every scene which gets a tad annoying.

This time the action takes place mainly in Nice, France with an attempt to steal diamonds. Set pieces are adequate but as mentioned the acting feels a little forced and the whole movie is not as satisfying as the original and the runtime too long.

Worth a watch and under another title would have been adequate but not of the same quality as the first movie unfortunately.

Den of Thieves 2: Pantera is an entertaining sequel that captures the essence of a high-stakes heist with a Grand Theft Auto mission feel. While it doesn't surpass its predecessor, it delivers solid action and suspense, keeping you on the edge of your seat. However, a few missteps in pacing and scope prevent it from reaching its full potential.

What I Liked 1. The Heist Execution: The film's innovative, detailed approach to planning and executing the heist was highlighted, offering nail-biting tension during the climax.

2. Action Sequences: The gunfights and tactical moves were not just well-executed, they were pulse-pounding, keeping the adrenaline high and the audience fully engaged.

3. Character Dynamics: Gerard Butler's cop character dipping into criminal waters added an intriguing dynamic, making the story more than just a heist. From the beginning, Oshea's character growth and commitment to his skills keep you invested in the characters.

What I Didn't Like 1. Overextended Scale: The international setting felt unnecessarily grand, losing the first film's intimate, gritty charm.

2. Pacing Issues: The first half dragged significantly, making the 2-hour 20-minute runtime feel bloated.

3. Predictable Twist: While the ending twist added intrigue, it was telegraphed too early, diminishing its impact.

Final Thoughts

If you enjoyed the first Den of Thieves, you'll likely appreciate this sequel for its thrilling heist and action-packed moments, but temper expectations. The film trades its predecessor's smaller, sharper focus for a grander yet less cohesive narrative.

Recommendation: Watch it if you're in the mood for a fun, action-heavy heist movie. It's not groundbreaking, but it's worth a trip to the theater .

Rating: 3.5/5 or 7/10 or B-: An enjoyable sequel.

Den of Thieves 2 delivers a slow-burning narrative with a runtime that overstays its welcome at 2 hours and 25 minutes. While there are some lighthearted moments sprinkled throughout, much of the film relies heavily on dialogue, which may not hold the attention of those expecting more action. The pacing feels uneven, particularly as it moves toward the ending, which seems more focused on setting up a sequel than providing a satisfying resolution. Though it has its moments, the film struggles to justify its length and lacks the high-stakes energy that made the first installment more engaging. It was intense in certain scenes but one character motive change my rating since it was a dishonorable act.

This film isn't nearly as action packed as the first. Most of the movie is dialogue, and there's very little action that's reserved for the end of the film. But the story helps add to the story of the first film. There's a fun relationship between Nick and Donnie that helps this film stand on its own, and there's arguably more humor this time around. Both films have a lot to offer, just in different ways.

There are some confusing story elements this time around, interesting characters are introduced that don't seem to contribute to the story at all, and the climax you keep waiting for never comes. This movie is all about story, but it doesn't need as much action to still be entertaining.

There is good and bad with this film, even as it feels like it is missing some of the magic of the first.

The cinematography, sound, and music are great. The film looks and sounds slick and flows well.

The story has some complexity to it as it involves more than just a set of good guys and a set of bad guys. It also follows the first film plot-wise, so having seen it will add to the experience.

At a few points in the story it would be better to not ask too many questions, as there are some plot conveniences that might be considered questionable for the validity and believability of a major international organized crime scenario. Some of the foundational premises of how characters are placed into the story are also tenuous.

The highlight for me though, was the heist execution and the subsequent chase. A long and gripping sequence of events that takes up much of the last half of the film. Superb sequences with sustained tension and realism. Really well directed and scored. And a very cool helicopter intervention.

The acting overall I would call very so-so. Often poor. The improvisation obvious. The casting, generally terrible. Adsurdly so. Aside from the two lead actors, I found the rest of the characters and cast playing them to be both unattractive and instantly forgettable. I never knew that French women had such large noses. Even the star of the film, and really the only one more or less acting in it, looks so haggard as to be a bit of a let down. The co-star was unconvincing generally in his role; he did not fit the part.

I think that this is what differentiates the feel of this film from the first. The first film had tight bands of opposing forces with strong main protagonist and antagonist characters. It also had believable and well-defined entourage characters played by actors who could act. The intensity felt genuine. This film sorely lacks all of this. It went full Euro and feels sloppy because of it. Casting was over-the-top diverse to the point of distraction, resulting in a lack of cohesion, with too many weak characters with no charisma that only made the plot contrivances more obvious.

Overall, still a good watch for fans of the first film.

Story ~ 6 ⭐ Unfortunately, the story was not fully developed. It felt lackluster. Just, maaaah. It had all the ingredients of an acceptable script, but it lacked high stakes. There was not nearly enough pressure put on the two leads. It had a great hook at the beginning, but then it dragged on trying to build character or story or ... so there it is, it just tried and never succeeded at being special. There is one scene where the film focuses on backstory and character. Just one, all jammed into one. It's noticeable.

Acting ~ 6 ⭐ Gerard is a long way off from Sparta here. His performance wasn't moving; it lacked emotion and nuance. The 2nd lead, O'Shea Jackson Jr., well how can I put this nicely ... was not as good as Gerard. There was no chemistry between the leads. It just was not there. They tried to add a romance sub-plot but that failed too. Enough said.

Cinematography ~ 8 ⭐ The cinematography was saved by the sweeping drone shots and the chase scene. It was good but not great. I think I'm being generous here. The landscape where this film was shot is breathtaking. They were smart to spend a lot of money on drone work. It's a pretty film, but nothing spectacular.

Some Commentary I was excited to see this movie, mainly because of the trailer-it's got a killer trailer. While in the theater, I kept hope, saying to myself, okay now it is going to ramp up and change for the better, but it plateaued and never did. The gravy never thickened.

There's a formula in Hollywood that big studios use. It goes something like (Name Actors + cool stunts + marketing = box office). There are of course numbers and multiples attached to this equation. This movie felt like it was plugged into the equation and shown to be profitable, then green-lit.

My Advice Wait and see it on Prime Video. It's still fun, but not theater fun. Or, go watch it and let me know in the comments if you agree or disagree. Until next time.

DOT2: Pantera is a good slow burn heist film bringing the bromance or love hate relationship between our two main characters as Butler is licking the wounds from the first film inflicted by Jackson.

The nice thing about Pantera is that it takes us the Mediterranean setting as the stakes go big with the Diamond Heist (inspired by the 2003 Antwerp true event) in Nice, France with the wrong move of stealing from the Italian Mafia.

The film does start with a heart pounding opening sequence and ends with a exciting car chase BUT the rest of the film is all talk and planning the heist.

Evin Ahmad and Nazmiye Oral both shine in their respective roles.

Nice twist to leave the doors open for DOT: 3.

More stylish than the first but still sassy, Pantera is a good watch, so long as you're willing to look past its ending and other logical leaps of faith. The original is an instant classic that no one knows about, so Pantera has a lot to live up to. It mostly delivers, with Butler and Jackson renewing their special game of chess. Supporting roles are also solid, with Evin Ahmad a sexy standout. Action is less visceral this time, but Pantera's quiet intensity makes up for it, especially during the mostly silent heist scene. The thing that keeps Pantera from joining its brother as one of the best heist/action movies of all time is its last 10 minutes. There's at least three endings here, and while I love a good twist, the ending might make you scratch your head. That won't matter to some, who have been desiring a reality palette cleanse after too many watchings of Wicked and Mufasa. Eve. With its flaws, Pantera is a perfect scratch for that itch, and it comes highly recommended.

Not as good as the first edition, which I rated with 8 stars, but I still did enjoy watching it, although it takes it's time to get started...

The bad: the first hour starts rather slow and uneventful, there are several scenes that are dispensable, lots of chitchat scenes between these criminals planning the heist, which could have been deleted to speed up the flow of the story.

Besides Gerard Butler there arent any other charismatic leading actors. The other actors certainly aint bad at all, but they sure arent A-list material either. (this is only a minor criticism though).

The good: when this movie finally get's going in the second half it is a real joy to watch these criminals excecute this smart heist with an enjoyable chase and shootouts that follows and with a surprising ending.

Beware Americans who are not used to subtitles, this movie contains several European languages which must be subtitled or synced to English. But this contains only a tiny part of the dialogue.

Solid action. Smart heist. Gerard Butler still rocks. Enjoyable heist movie, but dont expect fireworks...

After watching the original, I eagerly expected to see more of what I enjoyed: characters with some depth that have chemistry, equal screen time with the heroes and villains, dialogue that pops with energy, story beats that feel authentic: Ultimately, a fun heist movie. A warm homemade meal.

What I got was the Tuesday cafeteria special: a scoop of leftover mashed potatoes, and it landed right in the lima beans. It's food, but I didn't love eating it.

Credit where it's due, Den 2 is shot well and sounds great. Better than the first. Some nifty heist hijinks were clever.

But the lazy writing, plot conveniences, flat characters, meaningless subplots, insufferable music score (near the end), and shoddy pacing sully much of the positives.

The first Den displayed constant tension as the cops brushed shoulders with the crooks in everyday situations, suspicion ever present. Here, there's hardly any friction, and when it's there, it's contrived.

And at the end of the day, I'd rather watch Ghost Protocol or Italian Job than a shallow, underwhelming imitation.

Den of Thieves 2: Pantera is a decent follow up to the original but does have it's share of issues. Gerard Butler does a fine job, but can be a bit too over the top. O'Shea Jackson Jr does a solid job with a more robust performance but the structure of the story needs some work. Many things are tossed in to just conveniently show up later and needed more time with the heists and action segments.

Overall, Den of Thieves 2: Pantera is decently fun, if you can get past the issues it has with the pacing and structure of it's story. The action with the heists and car chases are enjoyable, just needed more time with those and less on the set up.

Brad: 6.5 Josh: 6.5 Final: 6.5.

Story wasn't bad. I expected more, but what is very disappointing is using Albanian, Bosnian average actors, with very bad and ugly accent to play Serbian thieves... Shame for directors and producers, Serbia has the best actors in Balkan who speak English very well.... Car chase was very good and shooting scene was very exciting. I like Gerald Butler, charismatic guy. O Shea good face, but little bit boring for my taste. Salvatore great Italian actor from Gomora, but playing Serbian Slavko is shooting in his own leg in my opinion...why he did that? Helicopter's scene is amazing and countryside from sky exceptionally...

Den of Thieves 2: Pantera doesn't go in the direction you'd initially expect after the twisty conclusion of the original but it works. It offers another thrilling heist movie with a different vibe thanks to the new set of films it's borrowing from that's comfortable taking its time telling its story for better and only slightly for worse. It's a predictable affair however these twists and turns aren't undercut by this because they feel right for the characters.

Big Nick is one of the strongest roles Gerald Butler has had during his welcome B movie renaissance so his return to the character is great. He's still got the commanding presence whilst adding a newfound turmoil when he starts to enjoy being on the wrong side of the law. Now that the cat's out of the bag from the beginning, O'Shea Jackson Jr. Gives a more charismatic performance and has good chemistry with Butler to keep the first half entertaining.

Christian Gudegast's direction retains the strengths from before as well as bringing new ones. The new settings give this a lovely sun kissed look and all the beautiful backdrops enhance its vibrancy. Just like last time he knows how to end on a satisfying needle drop and the extended heist sequence is highly investing stuff which is a huge asset to prevent its long run time from being too noticeable. Plus there's also a solid car chase and a fun club scene.

Man I love the first movie, but this one just doesn't hit the same marks. It starts off exciting but after the initial action sequence.... Well, you won't get one until after A LOT of talking lol. So many scenes could have simply been cut. And although they have to figure out the plan, it just takes too long. The first movie really entices you with action and stakes throughout and this one almost has nothing thrilling in the middle of the movie. The acting is great of course, the action when it happens is great you get a great car chase scene, but the actions of the characters and overall story just doesn't quite live up to its predecessor. Also the fact that you're expecting the sequel to take place in London with his team that was in the bar at the end of the first movie... yeah they threw that out the window lol. And why is there SO much French dialogue with NO subtitles??? You can get the jist of it but that was odd to me.

Den of Thieves 2: Pantera is a compelling sequel that elevates the heist genre with its intricate plotting and dynamic character development. Set against the picturesque backdrop of Europe, the film follows former detective Nick O'Brien (Gerard Butler) as he transitions from law enforcement to the criminal underworld, teaming up with the cunning Donnie Wilson (O'Shea Jackson Jr.) for an ambitious diamond heist.

One of the film's standout features is its meticulous attention to detail in planning the heist. Director Christian Gudegast immerses the audience in the elaborate strategies employed by the crew, creating a tension that keeps viewers on the edge of their seats. This focus on the procedural aspects of the heist adds a layer of authenticity and engagement that is often missing in similar films.

The chemistry between Butler and Jackson Jr. Is palpable, offering a nuanced portrayal of two men from opposite sides of the law finding common ground. Their evolving relationship adds depth to the narrative, moving beyond typical action tropes to explore themes of loyalty and redemption.

Visually, the film is stunning. The European locales are captured beautifully, providing a sleek and stylish aesthetic that complements the high-stakes narrative. The action sequences are well-choreographed, delivering thrills without sacrificing realism.

In summary, "Den of Thieves 2: Pantera" is a smart and engaging heist film that successfully builds upon its predecessor. With strong performances, a gripping plot, and impressive visuals, it's a must-watch for fans of the genre.

But at least not another "Fast & Furious". Close, but they all resemble the same 8th grade pickup USA majority mentality recipe anymore, hard to decipher.

Did like it lot more than first one. Bit of a plan for a change. Maybe because Gerard Butler wasn't speaking long lines as much.

Still some intrigue even thought Butler was again in it.

(Good actor? Okay, let's get Gerard together with Silvester Stallone and do some Shakespeare lines. What ya say dawg?)

Some plot holes, of course. Like the hard boiled cop crusade for justice (wow, how noble), which justifies being an arse we guess. But the warm up by O'Shea Jackson Jr., bit to convenient of a warp up to be burned by this cop, then "what, want to be my friend? Okay!" (Saw a required check box gay node overtone a coming).

And then... required cop arrests him and the sides with mafia... what?

Man, I gotta be honest, I'm sitting here in the theater watching this movie, and it's just not hitting like I thought it would. You know when you walk into a movie expecting something exciting, clever, or just straight-up fun? Yeah, this ain't it. It's dragging so much that I'm literally wondering why I didn't just wait for it to hit Prime or Netflix. That's the vibe right now.

The first one was so much better. Like, it had energy, it had charm-it kept you on the edge of your seat. This? Nah. The heist isn't even doing what a good heist should do. You know how Ocean's 11 had you thinking, "How are they gonna pull this off?" or how Money Heist had that crazy tension where you were rooting for them even when things went sideways? This movie isn't giving me any of that. It's like they tried, but it just feels hollow.

Honestly, I'd rather sit through Fast and Furious 20 at this point. At least with that, I know I'm getting some over-the-top action and ridiculous stunts that make me laugh. This? It's just kind of disappointing. I'm actually here typing this because I'd rather be doing something else than paying full attention to what's happening on screen. Lol.

Anyway, if you're thinking about seeing this, don't rush. Wait until you can stream it at home, where at least you can hit pause and grab snacks when it gets boring. Trust me, you're not missing much.

7.5/10 STARS - A SOLID follow-up to the first movie (which was also good). After enjoying my re-watch of the first Den of Thieves (and not understanding why I hadn't been super impressed with it the first time), I was looking forward to this sequel. Big Nick returns in Den of Thieves 2: Pantera. The director of the first film, who also wrote it, returns to direct and write this one as well. This is a plus, as his talent for plotting and pacing held up for me here like it did in the first entry. This film is a tad longer than the first one and somehow manages to improve on what made the first one so good. Despite some minor issues with certain plotlines, I was not disappointed as a whole, and that made me happy. Video review to come shortly.

I'm incredibly late seeing this seven-years-later sequel, and I'm about to double-feature with "Flight Risk," so here we go.

I only saw the first "Den of Thieves" a month ago, and it was entertaining. The ending twist and some other issues can't stop the confusion at its divisive reception, currently rocking 41% on Rotten Tomatoes, a far cry from this sequel's 61% at the time of writing. I disagree, especially considering that after seeing its follow-up, I think the original is better. It's still good, though.

First, Gerard Butler and O'Shea Jackson Jr. Carry this film as Nicolas O'Brien and Donnie Wilson, and their chemistry as Cop and Criminal almost makes the film's major flaw ignorable. Like the first one, Butler is over the top playing dirty cop Brown, and while he's undeniably unlikable, he never bores.

While not as good as the ones presented in the first, the heist scenes remain engaging. I won't spoil them, but the primary heist present here was wildly fun, and I was always curious to see what the main crooks did next.

I'm keeping this review simple, so I'll mention two other positives. Indeed, I can't wait to name my "Flight Risk" review "Y'all Need a Bad Movie?" Good or bad, that's the name. Anyway, one action scene toward the end was hands down one of the Top 3 favorite moments of the film, and they topped themselves with the ending twist. That surprised me because I should've seen it coming. Again, no spoilers, but you'll get that feeling once the twist reveals itself.

However, the pacing - mainly in the first 30 minutes - is rough. The first 30 minutes don't have O'Brien and Wilson crossing paths, and the new characters aren't compelling in this timeframe. Thankfully, the second O'Brien and Wilson cross paths, the film becomes more interesting. I'm honestly quite sad because this issue doesn't exist to this extreme in the prior installment. It could be a me thing, so hopefully, you don't find this issue if you watch it.

To remain simple, it's not as good as the original, but it's still an enjoyable January offering from Lionsgate. It's great to see them having their first #1 box office hit since 2023.

Technically, I wouldn't call this or the previous film "bad." I hear chatter that its 2018 predecessor is one of the best "so bad, it's good" movies. No. They're just fun, with not a lot technically wrong. The technical score for this sequel is a 9/10.

For the enjoyment score: for reference, the first is an 8/10 enjoyment score, but this sequel falls a wee bit short with a 7/10. Though it's on digital, I still went to the theaters, so I'd recommend seeing it that way.

After watching Den of Thieves one which I loved, i was excited to watch No2 No No No.. I'm pretty bad at focusing on movies at the best of times even if I semi enjoy it but with DOT2 I struggled to look up at the screen and when I did I was like has it even started yet 1 hour in, this is the first time I have ever reviewed on IMDB. But I felt the need on this occasion. I might even watch DOT1 again just to compare the gulf between the two. DOT1 has a great story line , characters pace excitement, DOT2 has none of this, it's like your waiting 1 hour into the movie for actually nothing to happen. Stay away..