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Danny Glover, John C. McGinley, Wrenn Schmidt, and Zachary Spicer in Amar o predicar (2017)

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19 opiniones
6/10

Thoughtful but Lacking

Movies reflect the values of the people who make them. Most of those people are Liberal or even Leftist. So you get thousands of movies per year with a Liberal or Leftist perspective. One of those perspectives is that religion sucks.

Whenever I see Danny Glover listed in the cast of anything other than Lethal Weapon, I expect some kind of touchy-feely message.

Yet I would not consider this film anti-Catholic. Our main character is very earnest in wanting to serve both God and his congregation. He just struggles with his faith, like many people.

The three-man staff of the parish is meant to represent different potential versions of priests. One is old and conservative, one is old and a bit cynical and silly, but still committed, and one is young and confused.

To their credit the film makers did not make the old conservative one out to be a bad guy. No one molests children or does immoral things.

But what disturbed me was that the spoiled, cynical slacker-woman character is portrayed as the righteous one who teaches life lessons to the out-of-touch clergy. Yet her life is a mess. That part is typical Indie glorification of melancholia.

While the dialog hinted at profundity, it never quite gets there. The Glover character does challenge the silly woman, but he is made out to look rude, while she's the hipster.

Someone should have told the main young character to loosen up, instead of just implying it. Meanwhile someone should have told the woman that trendy self-pity and dishonesty are not becoming.

The Midwest college town setting and slow pace are refreshing compared to the typical L.A., New York, Chicago, Miami redundancy. But pregnant pauses and focused shots of a contemplative face do not create depth. The dialog still has to do its job.
  • dansview
  • 10 feb 2018
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6/10

Good acting, but Catholics might not like it

Catholic viewers, beware. The Good Catholic is a quirky, indie flick that takes a definite viewpoint. There are three Catholic priests, Danny Glover, John C. McGinley, and the lead character Zachary Spicer. Each great friends, each at different stages in their lives, and each with a different relationship with God. Danny is the oldest; he's the sage who is the most solely devoted to God. John is "the fun one". He puts pizzazz into the choir, he loves watching football games, and he's constantly cracking jokes. But, in an emotional sermon, he educates his congregation on the true meaning of compassion: to suffer with. Even though he seems like the stereotypical "fun priest" who uses slang and listens to hip hop, he really does have a meaningful relationship with God. Zach is the problem. He's grieving the death of his father, and it's extremely clear that his grief overwhelms and distracts him. He feels pain and loss, and when a quirky, non-religious, disrespectful young woman (Wrenn Schmidt) comes into his confessional, he gets taken out of himself for a while. It's very simple, to an outside viewer.

Wrenn is a pot-stirrer who intentionally bothers him and tries to disturb his life. At first, she tells him she's dying, and when she's secured his pity, she starts seeing him socially outside the confessional. Her behavior is highly inappropriate; everybody knows that a priest has taken a vow of chastity. She seems bound and determined to poke holes in his life and make him break that vow. She invites him into her apartment, she flirts with him ("Alright, you can take me home, but no funny business," she says before he's even offered to), and she actually informs him that they're dating. They're not dating! He's a Catholic priest - even a non-Catholic viewer can see how unacceptable her actions are.

When Zach invites her to dinner with the other priests, Danny takes a very hard stance with her. I got the feeling that the audience was supposed to think he was rude, but I was completely on his side. She was horribly offensive to him, called him names, and walked out of the dinner. All he did was remind her of a priest's choices, duty, and lifestyle. How is that rude?

All in all, I understood the message of the film, but I didn't agree with it. I'm not sure how Catholic viewers will feel about it (but I'm not going to give any spoilers). Those who don't really respect the church will probably really like it; they'll probably really like Wrenn's character.

DLM Warning: If you suffer from vertigo or dizzy spells, like my mom does, this movie might not be your friend. There is quite a bit of handheld camerawork in this movie, and it will make you sick. In other words, "Don't Look, Mom!"
  • HotToastyRag
  • 3 nov 2021
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4/10

the ending hurts

  • webx-28223
  • 13 sep 2017
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3/10

Good movie, but do research after...

I read a lot about this movie and since I'm a Catholic I looked up information about this movie from Catholic websites I could trust. I'm not sure what kind of light this shows Catholics in, especially the monk who smokes and seems to not care about the fact that this priest might be breaking his vow of chastity. Yes, I understand that priests are human and temptations are real. But I think it's important to point out that not all Catholic priests act this way. In fact, when a priest breaks his vow, its a very big deal. It sounds like a funny, romantic movie but its good to keep in mind, especially if you don't know much about Catholics, that this is not 100% accurate.
  • tmjirgal
  • 17 sep 2017
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1/10

Just wasted an hour and a half watching a predictable chick flick... Bad Catholic movie.

  • adamkpl
  • 6 oct 2017
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Masterful Evocation of Youth

THE GOOD CATHOLIC finds a decent young man trying to follow a path set out for him by his father, that of a Catholic priest. We can sense from the first scene his restlessness in the confines of this dogma-bound and tightly constricted role. He yearns for meaning in life and thought to satisfy that yearning in the priesthood but finds himself embracing phantoms until an edgy and clever young woman enters his life. She claims to be dying but touches him with her spark of individuality and suddenly he understands his life can be more than a period of long waiting for the end, more than fear of hell and hope of heaven. The movie evokes very powerfully the deep yearning of youth for a lifetime story of love and meaning, for experiencing something intense and alive before it's too late, the awful fear that youth has that it will never be young.
  • josephryan-39287
  • 10 sep 2017
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1/10

Dissapointing and Annoying

The two main characters are extremely boring. They cannot reflect internal living of events and feelings. The young priest - is completely unremarkable. Jane has a high pitch "spoiled-brat" voice, she is entitled, impertinent, inconsiderate, self-centred tardy teenager. She is superficial and completely incapable to keep attention on anything else more than three minutes if it is not about her directly. Threats people like trash - people who try to be there for here out of good heart and compassion. I though this movie will repair by the end but no - this little trivial, annoying child dominates the whole footage.
  • mariekmocan
  • 13 abr 2019
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7/10

Very good movie, but that "end"...

A lot to think about, that's what this film gives you;there will be laughs,and also tense and sad moments;my friends and I had an interesting discussion after watching it, but most of all :no one liked the end ... frustrating ...you see, there's a lot of stories with 'open ends',and most of the times it works; as for this one, we all wanted to see EVERYTHING on the screen,without having to decipher anything at all.Wren Schmidt is lovely here;Glover:finest work ever;Mcginley, hilarious as usual but also moving(must see);Spicer was a revelation to us: very good acting.Don't miss this film!
  • uqbarino
  • 8 sep 2017
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3/10

As bland and basic as it could possibly get

I grew up in a place and time when "The Thorn Birds" (1983 mini-series adaptation of a novel about a Catholic priest's forbidden love) was so hugely popular that, for at least a decade afterwards, references to and re-makes/adaptations of this premise kept popping up without losing the audience's attention. I mean, as far as "forbidden love" goes, this kind of premise is extremely advantageous: there's high stakes, there's tension, there's existential angst and crisis of faith, moral dilemmas and heartbreak...

You'd think it almost can't go wrong

But apparently it can, and it did in this film, which is SO bland and uninspired it's painful to watch.

The young (uber-hunk) priest is struggling with grief and a general lack of faith, but only in words. He repeats "I'm struggling with grief and a general lack of faith" several times throughout the film, but he totally fails to convince, despite the tears, because there isn't a story to back this up.

The woman (=love interest) character is totally random. She's apparently obsessed with death because life seems meaningless otherwise, but we don't find out anything about her that would turn her into a three-dimensional character. She's just quirky for the sake of being quirky. Everything she says (because this film is all about what people say, they don't really do much) amounts to "I'm so quirky, look at me, I'm so occasionally depressed and obsessed with death!"

And then there's the two supporting priest characters whose role and (lack of) depth can also be summed up in one-liners: there's the "I'm proper and wise and old-fashioned" and the "I'm quirky and rebellious and clearly here for comic relief, while also demonstrating that faith isn't necessarily about following all the rules or taking yourself too seriously".

Yeh so that's it. What I wrote above is the whole film. I swear there's absolutely nothing else in it. Every scene seems pointless because it just goes through the motions of its generic tag: "the crisis of faith scene", "the boy-meets-girl scene", "the break-up scene" oh and the should-have-been-powerful-but-ended-up-complete-nonsense "awkward dinner scene".

Don't waste your time. If the premise appeals to you so much go watch The Thorn Birds.
  • elliest_5
  • 9 may 2018
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3/10

Great story, terrible ending!

  • maggied-32128
  • 28 ene 2018
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10/10

It's not what you think

No matter what you might think this is about from the title, you're wrong. IOW, don't not see the film because of it. It's neither a polemic mocking religious faith, nor does it say anything about religion except maybe why don't we all just sit down and start over. All four primary characters are superbly cast, including Danny Glover who is about 3 steps above anything I've ever seen him in before. The subject matter is handled respectfully, albeit with liberal amounts of humor which zeros in on the fact that most religions take themselves way to seriously--which the production company apparently takes to heart, naming itself Pigasus (sic) Pictures.

This is about as perfect as you can expect an independent film to be. It's only flaw is there being too much lipstick on Daniel--which is so obvious, I wondered if they just wanted to give the audience something to criticize. Needless to say, there's no actual action for the action junkies, but the dialogue and the subject matter are outstanding--and at times, profound. This is my second "10" of the year, (18th all time), the first being only a week ago, so I was wondering if coming out of the summer movie drought has something to do with it.

It' doesn't'.
  • Stewball
  • 7 sep 2017
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5/10

See Jane Die

A 4-actor film and religious plot has necessarily to communicate much and good to be acceptable. In this case we have a lot of confusion. It is very difficult to find God from the safety and protection of a religious community. God can be found in the difficulty, need and suffering, rarely taking part of a congregation whose way of life is living comfortably. Here we have 4 characters and 4 situations the first one, the superior that believe himself infallible and with right to humiliate. Second; the priest who apparently is normal and flexible but who punishes and make kneeling to one boy who is wrong in singing. Third:The smart protagonist who tries but does not find God and Fourth, the girl who gets tired of not finding something worthwhile in this life, sleeps in a coffin and its motto is "See Jane Die". (Possibly, she is the only one who has God closer). The film is sometimes lacking in rhythm and is only valid for those who endure movies with religious theme. Nothing new.
  • pacolopezpersonal-22057
  • 22 sep 2017
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10/10

Fascinating Story

I was lucky enough to see this film and thoroughly enjoyed it! I knew some of the basic story line, but found that I was still glued to the screen as the movie progressed. I was pulled in by the actors and felt their emotions and points of stress! It was fascinating watching how the story grew and changed and how the characters dealt with it all. I work in a church and could relate to the well-acted subtleties of having "church" in the mix!

The movie has some really funny parts and very serious and tense parts. This is the kind of movie that sparks conversation. Please don't miss it!
  • jebrinkworth
  • 22 feb 2017
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10/10

Interesting exploration of faith and love in entertaining story

Enjoyed the development of the relationship between faith and love in a story with interesting, well developed characters. Funny and sad issues that adults can relate to presented in a compelling and entertaining story. Well worth seeing with friends and discussing after. The filming and photography struck me as excellent. Set in small town America, the story presents challenges and moral issues faced by everyone.
  • jwglassen
  • 7 sep 2017
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10/10

This is a coming of age film about how a young priest discovers passion and purpose from an unsuspecting confessional. Divine intervention has many faces.

This is a fantastic independent film. Jane and Daniel, finding comfort in the boundaries created by the Catholic confessional, carry you on their search for life's meaning. Father Victor and Ollie are ahead of this curve but each character struggles with accepting their humanity. Father Ollie challenges Daniel and Jane to wrestle with their frailty and flaws. Sparks fly and judgment is abandoned, until Father Victor exemplifies the voice of reason.

Less movie typical, the action in the movie is caring for the sick, watching basketball,and going for a run. Endlessly refreshing you are challenged to realize the action is YOU. With wit and perfection you will find yourself asking what action will I take to live a compassionate life..
  • reilly-48714
  • 8 sep 2017
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9/10

Enjoyable Entertainment, and much more if you want it...

  • dan-73961
  • 27 sep 2017
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10/10

Great movie for any time

This movie is just so great the acting is pristine and the plot is interesting it's almost a thrilling drama YES
  • schizoshua
  • 9 may 2018
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9/10

I'd like to see the whole movie sometime .

I just saw what I am convinced must be an Excessive Edit of the film . 1:29:14 Well Acted ,Well written ,Well made but edited to keep us from finding out Not just how it ends but to keep us from seeing full scenes or even enough to know what is going on during the film .
  • shydreamguywantsabboyfriend
  • 29 ene 2019
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10/10

A good blend of Serious and Comical moments

The film "The Good Catholic" does an amazing job presenting serious and comical moments. From a speech about compassion to a joke about The Beatles the film does an amazing job maintaining a balance. It's a film worth watching more than once!
  • aphillipsdakota
  • 9 jun 2021
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