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The concept of this movie seemed promising; a philosophical thought experiment where you must decide who should live and who should die, all presented in a way that was both entertaining and involving for the audience. In the end though, I came away feeling that the script had been written by two people: the first 2 thirds were written by someone who did a crash course in philosophy and had only a vague understanding of the ideas they were trying to explore, and the final third was written by someone who manages to pull off the challenge of being unbelievably self-righteous despite their IQ of 70.

At the start, it (very) quickly glances over some other thought experiments which involve conflicts of rationality and morality (5 people tied to one train track, 1 person tied to parallel track, train coming down track with 5 people, but you have a switch that will change the track the train goes down to the one with only 1 person on, do you flip the switch?). They're well known to anyone who's familiar with utilitarianism, but anyone who's not covered them before will probably be left confused as to how the movie concludes immediately after asking the question that the switch flippers are murderers and offering no explanation as to why. But it's at least getting people warmed up for actively participating in the thought experiment rather than just being passive observers.

The main thought experiment, deciding who should get to live, is pretty interesting at first. Rationality and logic will be most peoples tools for deciding; the people who bring the greatest benefit to humanity should live. The movie then tries to test the boundaries of how far you'll stay rational for the greater good in situations which you may find immoral. Can 'bad' actions be justified if they're for the greater good (e.g. dropping the atom bomb to end WW2)? While this is good in concept, the script and characters fail to pull it off in a convincing way. The characters put up fights on grounds of morality in such petty issues that they come across as just being whiny children throwing a tantrum rather than humans stretched to the limits of what they'll do in pursuit of the greater good and finally drawing a line in what they can bear to justify to themselves as 'the rational thing to do'.

It was the final third that really ruined the film though. Up until then it may not have been great, but it was at least trying to explore philosophical problems. But at this point the self-righteous writer who can barely spell philosophy, let alone comprehend it, takes over. They completely ignore every concept of right and wrong the film has previously been exploring. The writer goes off on their own tangent with their view of what's 'good', which doesn't seem too bad at first, except it appears to be written by someone who has never actually stopped to consider why they judge something as 'good'. There is neither rationality nor logic behind their ideas, no concept of the greater good, in fact, you'd be hard pushed to find any interpretation of morality where the final writers 'good' may fit in to. It's just selfish, unbelievably stupid and defies any kind of logic. The writer isn't trying to write a thought provoking script, he's trying to write a 'feel good' story that ignores reality and is completely unrelated to anything previously discussed in the movie. I believe the writer was trying to convey something along the lines of rationality and logic not being the gold standard when it comes to morality, but he failed in showing anyone why this might be. His attempt to show this may have actually being so poor that, inadvertently, he actually reinforced the importance of rationality.

I think the movie does deserve some credit for presenting a story that will get viewers thinking about some interesting concepts, for that I would still recommend it for people unfamiliar with philosophy, but if you are familiar with the concepts covered then I don't think it's worth watching as it will add nothing new to what you already know and will probably end up just irritating you.

The beginning is interesting, I would say until the second half. Nothing wildly exciting, has some nice little twist in there but very minimal. It is shot in a dreamy kind of atmosphere. For some completely non-constructive and no where plot related reason the class is in Jakarta (pronounced Yanky style Djakardda) and you can tell this by the teak hardwood furniture and the crickets in the back (duh). The second half is hopeless. All the close ups of clearasil clean pouts, island shots and fuzzy broken sunlight (a lot if it) can't disguise the mouth-breathy throaty delivered "philosophy" to be no more than pretentious romanticism. The ending is a joke. Or maybe it is 'so deep' we all didn't get it. I give it a 5 for the first half.

I admit this wasn't exactly as exciting and fast paced as the trailer suggested but I still really enjoyed it. While everyone seems to be slating the film for its explanation of philosophy I think they are missing the point. Personally I believe the film is more about human nature and how in essence we are emotional creatures. Here is a tutor arguing about logical choices and not allowing emotion to guide you when in the end it is revealed the whole exercise was created as his emotional reaction to something. I cant say much more without spoiling it for those who haven't seen it. I would definitely recommend this to others. I would call this a Sunday afternoon film, it does all the thinking for you but you can still enjoy the ride.

Evolution has always favored self-interest. Collectivism only works when the self-interest of the majority is satisfied. That is all you have to know to survive the end of times, I mean, if you even want to survive the end of times...because, let's face it, it is pointless... just like this movie.

As I watched the movie it came to me that the guys who wrote, directed and produced this film were in a bar one night when they decided that this was a worthwhile film. You would have to be fall- down drunk to think this film had any depth or even answered the most shallow philosophical questions of existence.

The acting was bland, the lead actress was a desert of emotions. The other actors just stood there without expression. I don't suppose that the director or the films cutter had sobered up from their night of drinking yet and I do believe that the music was written for some other movie...maybe a cartoon.

Please do not watch this film or you might hurt your artistic soul...there, I have warned you.

John Huddles' "After the Dark" (2013) delivers an absolutely fascinating and intellectually stimulating sci-fi thriller, immersing viewers in a unique philosophical thought experiment about survival and morality. The film excels in its ambitious premise, challenging its characters and the audience to confront difficult ethical dilemmas in a post-apocalyptic scenario. The ensemble cast, featuring a group of philosophy students, delivers compelling performances, each embodying distinct viewpoints and vulnerabilities. Its strength lies in its intelligent script, which sparks genuine debate and introspection, and its willingness to explore complex questions without easy answers. Instead of a typical disaster movie, it offers a fresh, unforgettable, and endlessly rewatchable cinematic experience that prioritizes ideas over action.

Is it worth watching? Absolutely. "After the Dark" is a must-watch for those who appreciate intelligent sci-fi, philosophical discussions, and films that dare to be different. It's a truly unique and thought-provoking experience.

It's been a while since I watched the movie. Which is not exactly a film in the true sense of the word. But it is interesting and provocative product. Accordingly, the fair assessment is not so high too but I decided to give the vote more confidence. There are several moments which I want to say.

First of all the level of foreign education system. We continue with the social stereotypes and move on to assessing people on that what they are working. I.e. not what they are. In the foreground it is shown the way of attitude towards people as a means caused by market relations and lack of foresight.

It is raised the issue of declining occupations that are no longer needed. It's about helplessness and insignificance (at the same time the fragility, beauty and vulnerability) of human existence to the possible doomsday scenarios.

Many people think that life without art, opera, theater, poetry and classical music would be much more pragmatic. And they are wrong because the world without all those Arts is impossible. They are fine tissue that builds everything else in reality. These are the areas close to the border situations of human existence, to nothing. They are the ones that try to express in their own language inexpressible feelings, emotions and conditions.

And yes, Angkor Wat.

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I feel the point of this film may have been missed...

First off- if you're a philosopher, a pensive person or enjoy riddles and the like, you will no doubt enjoy this movie. It's (as expected) full to the brim with intriguing thought concepts and ideas, all resulting in different outcomes in visually stunning locations and scenarios. I myself was lucky enough to have been given a similar experiment back when I was in secondary school and was already familiar with the game being played in the movie.

It's important to note this film isn't a documentary or project done for showing in schools and colleges though- it's a film. I think where the reception for the movie went awry was where many were expecting it to all make perfect sense and in the end make you realise something you never did before- not so. Instead what this film does is take a very well-known philosophical debate whereby a group must decide between them who shall be fit to continue the human race in special circumstances, but applies it to a younger generation of adults today and how a group of us may think differently to that of a group asked the same thing, say, 50 years ago.

It's more importantly a film about morality, logics, and how we as people judge what is and isn't important, and encourages you to see the importance of those we would cast aside as weak.

Personally I loved the film, it has a great cast of actors, it's visually stunning and not too heavy or mystifying. I recommend seeing it before going on what the others have said.

I see there's a lot of bad reviews and I'll admit this is not for everyone. It's a movie that isn't as clever as it thinks it is, but it still poses some excellent thinking-points that you as a viewer will question.

Synopsis: As a class of bright philosophy students sit through their final lesson, their teacher puts forth one last thought experiment that tests loyalties, pushes boundaries and reveals hidden truths.

Consider 'After the Dark' if you're into more thought-orientated movies (it's certainly not a tense thriller like the trailers suggest).

I admit I had very high expectations for this movie, simply because I love riddles and movies that stimulate one's brain. Sadly, it was a huge disappointment.

At the beginning, the movie seemed pretty promising and I rather enjoyed it till about the middle. That's when things started taking the turn for the worse. For all the logic that movie tries depict, it truly lacks that very same logic badly. There were so many absolutely illogical and dumb scenes I can't even begin to name them. What was a highly interesting scenario with great potential became just another one of these movies you are likely to forget pretty soon.

I enjoyed it while it lasted, with the exception of the ending (I'd rather they just deleted it all together), and the acting was pretty great, too. Over all, it's entertaining to a certain degree but don't expect anything mind-blowing. The movie doesn't live up to what it promises.

I liked it even with its flaws but it failed to deliver in the end. I like the premise and the first two acts but the ending was heavily flawed in my opinion.

This movie made me extremely angry. Don't get me wrong i'm not some kind of easily agitated, I've seen some real crappy movies before and would be like 'meh', but this movie managed to get me real angry, like real p%$$3d off! Let me analyse why. From checking out the trailer I've started watching the movie with good expectations about a philosophical mystery with interesting twists. It would be too nice to just say that this movie did not contain neither mystery, neither twists and neither any philosophy, and calling a few, known-by-all examples of some mind games philosophy is insult to viewers intelligence, but yet again this movies existence is insulting to begin with. So OK, movie was crap, but so are so many others, why am i angry about this particular one? - It is because it managed to disappoint not once, like it would be normal but dozen times during the course of it. You'd be thinking "OK, OK something interesting is about to happen" and no, nothing, sorry just crap acting and stupid story. Then you might be thinking "Ok maybe not interesting, but something provocative is surely going on here", but no, sorry, same crap. Disappoint. And on and on like this, until the culmination - "This movie better have a stunning twist at the end, so it's rating would be somehow justified!" And guess what? THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED! Not just disappointing, the ending was agonizing to watch. To watch as any hope leaves your mind, to begin comprehending how meaningless and stupid the last 90 minutes were - this is real pain. It is truly amazing to me how you could ruin something so much. I've seen movies that created astonishing scenarios over a root that seemed irrelevant at start, but I've not seen someone diminishing EVERYTHING he possibly could over a pretty good looking starting point! One last thing - the main actress(not even gonna bother scrolling to see her name) was just soooo bad. That twilight girl is 10/10 in comparison. A freshly cut small tree carried around by set crew would play her role much better.

Don't watch this movie!

just watched this film. saw a lot of derision on here for it so had to comment. this film asks some really good questions and doesn't ask a lot of other questions. This film lets the viewer think. A quality that so few films allow these days. Yes, there is a formula to this film but that is not a bad thing. The themes this film allows you to think about need a familiar plot point to ground it so we as an audience can relate. Sure this film is not Oscar worthy if that matters, but that doesn't make it a bad movie. This film reminds me of the 'Lifeboat' exercise I did in drama school. The 3rd solution to the puzzle made so much sense to me. Watch it and make up your own mind.

I didn't see the trailer before watching this film, i just read the synopsis and boy did I like it. I play a lot of games, not on a console or something, but logical games that my friends i and create on the spot. most of them would start with "What if..?". We would get into a lot of imaginative thinking and role play, and see how the game continues. If you are one of those kind of people that play these kinds of games, then you are going to love this film.

Forget the other reviews. They were expecting another same, monotonous, repeated Hollywood action movie. If you like mind games, and have a bit of imagination, please watch this movie.

Now About the movie. It never gets boring. You will be glued to the bloody screen for the entire movie. The story never gets blunt, it was very well written.

As for the direction, camera work, cinematography is over the top. The cinematographer John Radel, has done an outstanding job... The score is excellent too...

All I want to say is that this is not for the commoners. It is for the people who enjoy a lot of "What if?" questions...

The ending didn't follow the mood and tone of the movie and I feel ruined a great movie otherwise.

This movie had a lot of potential, but appears to have been written by somebody who has spent a day browsing "philosophy" on Wikipedia and Reddit, after smoking a joint.

Some interesting and well know philosophical concepts are introduced, after which we are treated to some truly shallow exploration of an otherwise interesting thought experiment.

This movie was notable for me in that it was one of the few movies that left me empty and unfulfilled. Kind of like going to an expensive restaurant where food is an art form, only you get very little of it, and it doesn't taste very nice.

However, to be balanced, the cinematography was not bad, and the story is likely what would happen if you throw a bunch of abercrombie & fitch models in a room to discuss philosophy. It also carries the same level of depth and intellectual challenge.

Waste of time.

Good idea bad execution. Physiological thrillers are always interesting movies to watch because they have to be good otherwise they are just a pain to fully watch. This movie is on the edge of ugly and pretty. At first you have faith in the movie but then it just goes downhill, boring filming, repetitive scenarios and not the best acting. The movie is just shown in a vulgar manner which is really the main negative part about it, it's sad because the idea is rather unique but the product is just a glimpse into what it could've been. There are many other movies with similar themes that are just more entertaining and a having to watch.