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De grot

  • 2001
  • 1h 30min
PUNTUACIÓN EN IMDb
6,7/10
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TU PUNTUACIÓN
De grot (2001)
¿CrimenMisterioRomanceThriller

Thriller psicológico. Un profesor de geografía pasa de contrabando una caja de heroína para un amigo.Thriller psicológico. Un profesor de geografía pasa de contrabando una caja de heroína para un amigo.Thriller psicológico. Un profesor de geografía pasa de contrabando una caja de heroína para un amigo.

  • Dirección
    • Martin Koolhoven
  • Guión
    • Tim Krabbé
  • Reparto principal
    • Fedja van Huêt
    • Kim Huffman
    • Marcel Hensema
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  • PUNTUACIÓN EN IMDb
    6,7/10
    699
    TU PUNTUACIÓN
    • Dirección
      • Martin Koolhoven
    • Guión
      • Tim Krabbé
    • Reparto principal
      • Fedja van Huêt
      • Kim Huffman
      • Marcel Hensema
    • 9Reseñas de usuarios
    • 4Reseñas de críticos
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    • Premios
      • 1 premio y 1 nominación en total

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    Reparto principal68

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    Fedja van Huêt
    Fedja van Huêt
    • Egon Wagter
    Kim Huffman
    Kim Huffman
    • Marcie Nussbaum
    Marcel Hensema
    Marcel Hensema
    • Axel van de Graaf
    Jeroen Willems
    Jeroen Willems
    • Michiel Polak
    Saskia Temmink
    • Adriënne
    Porgy Franssen
    • Bremer
    Gijs Scholten van Aschat
    Gijs Scholten van Aschat
    • Mijnsherenland
    Gwen Eckhaus
    • Egons moeder
    Gene Bervoets
    Gene Bervoets
    • Man hotel
    • (as Gène Bervoets)
    Kees Hulst
    Kees Hulst
    • Leemberg
    Anke Engels
    • Margriet
    Frank Lammers
    Frank Lammers
    • René
    Dimme Treurniet
    Dimme Treurniet
    • Bobby
    Paul Gieske
    Paul Gieske
    • Faas
    Irene Slotboom
    • Hildegonde
    Leny Breederveld
    • Tante Adriënne
    Hans Man in 't Veld
    Hans Man in 't Veld
    • Vader Adriënne
    Thomas Wander
    • Vriend Egon
    • (as Thomas Oerlemans)
    • Dirección
      • Martin Koolhoven
    • Guión
      • Tim Krabbé
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    6Mcmennemen

    no thrills, but loads of flashbacks

    my comment on this so called thriller / suspense is that is has no action at all and the real thrills are hard to find. Okay the story is fine, the loads of flashbacks are not annoying and can be followed very easily. It's good that it's only 90 minutes, at the end it was hard to keep my eyes open, no action, no shocking moments, nothing! I think people will have more fun reading the book.
    10anonymous-3

    Great film

    Though structured totally different from the book by Tim Krabbé who wrote the original 'The Vanishing' (Spoorloos) it does have the same overall feel, except for that Koolhoven's style is less business-like and more lyric. The beginning is great, the middle is fine, but the sting is in the end. A surprise emotional ending. As you could read in several magazines there is some sex in the film, but it is done all very beautifully. Never explicit, but with lots of warmth and sometimes even humour. It is a shame American films can't be as open an honoust as this one. Where Dutch films tend to go just over the edge when it comes to this subject, 'De Grot' stays always within the boundaries of good taste. 'De Grot' tells an amazing story stretched over more than 30 years. When you'll leave the cinema you'll be moved. What can we ask more of a film? Anyway, this film even gives more....
    9rbverhoef

    Interesting thriller

    'De Grot' is a terrific Dutch thriller, based on the book written by Tim Krabbé. Another of his books, 'Het Gouden Ei' was made into the great Dutch mystery thriller called 'Spoorloos' ('The Vanishing') in 1988. This one is not as good as that thriller (although much better than the American remake also called 'The Vanishing') but there are times it comes close.

    Especially the opening moments are terrific. We see a man, later we learn his name is Egon Wagter (Fedja van Huêt), coming from a plane in Thailand. When he picks up his bags it is pretty clear that he is smuggling something across the border. These scenes are perfectly directed, photographed and acted. A kind of suspense is created that you would normally not have in an opening scene like this. Later we see how Egon makes his deal in Thailand with a woman, both stating that they have never done anything like this.

    From this point the movie is constantly flashback and flash-forward. We see how Egon, still as a child (here played by Erik van der Horst), befriends a guy named Axel (as a kid played by Benja Bruijning). We learn how they grew up as friends, sort of, and how Axel (as an adult played by Marcel Hensema) became a criminal. Egon in the meanwhile goes to college and settles with a woman. Around this time he sometimes meets Axel but does not really want anything to do with him.

    The movie is chronological in a way. It shows Egon and Axel as kids, than as students, young adults, and in their mid-thirties. But from time to time, like I said, the movie goes back to when they were kids and jumps forward again. Every time we see them as kids it explains something that happens when they are adults.

    Minor spoilers herein.

    The title means 'The Cave', and it is the cave that gives the movie its happy ending, although it is in fact not that happy. Like the beginning, the ending is terrific. The middle part of the movie is entertaining and in a way it distracts our attention of the first scenes, only to come back at that point in the end. It is the editing that gives the movie its happy ending, although we can say the dramatic ending is happy in a way as well.
    6rrr-3

    above average quality

    The quality of De Grot is above average: you won't get bored, the development of the characters is consistent, the acting is good.

    Even the children act good. It looks good, the sound is good, the editing is good.

    Nevertheless, I have the feeling that there is one recurring flaw in Koolhoven's work, also in AmnesiA, the film he made just before this one. Too often scenes, dialogues, settings are too explanatory. If there is something we should not miss as an audience it is pushed in our face or said explicitly. A quote from De Grot: "At the time, you chose me as a friend merely to have someone look up to you". As if we couldn't see that ourselves! Or if we didn't notice, leave it unsaid, we will get it in some way or another anyway. Or a woman that says to her man out of the blue "what do you think about our relationship?" is way too explicit to demonstrate that something is wrong between them. I prefer to have a wealth of little subtle suggestions I may or may not pick up, it might work unconsciously. Never do I have the feeling that there is much of that in his work. Even Hollywood action movies assume more movie literacy.

    With nudity he is too explicit also. I have had long discussions with Martin on this in the newsgroup nl.kunst.film but he is convinced that he can show whatever he feels like. I disagree strongly, only show if it is needed, and often the nudity in his films is not.

    Pointless nudity in films also happens to be a persistent and decades old cliché about Dutch films, Martin apparently has no intention to restrain himself either.

    Lastly, I have one objection to the oeuvre of Koolhoven so far.

    Although he visually certainly has a unique signature in his work, thematically it remains quite superficial. In spite of his love for authors cinema and the freedom he has had so far to make author films, he does not seem ready (yet?) to reveal thematic concerns in his work. Perhaps I expect too much, but perhaps he dares not to make himself vulnerable yet, although he should. My compliments for style and craftsmanship, but without some more soul in his work it will never become the work of a genius. But he should be given all the means to make a larger oeuvre and might get to that one day.
    7steenvreter29

    Admirable adaptation, although it doesn't to escape the limitations of Tim Krabbe's novel

    Tim Krabbe is the praised author of 'Het Gouden Ei', a novel that was put on the screen twice ('Spoorloos' and 'The Vanishing'). One of the Dutch writer's more recent works is 'De Grot', a psychological thriller about two totally different men, Egon and Axel, who meet at a youth camp and, surprising enough, become friends for dear life. Egon is a quiet, somewhat dull person, who spends his time studying and writing geography books. Axel, on the other hand, is a charismatic 'party-animal', a heavy drinking criminal whose everyday's concern is to get a woman into his bedroom. From the moment they meet, Axel has a strong influence on Egon, while the latter envies him because he has a good life without really doing anything (such as reading thick books like Egon); ultimately, Egon is even dragged by Egon into illegal practices himself, which leads to a fatal drug transport in a distant Asian country.

    After having read the book last year, I was surprised the critics were quite positive about it. In my opinion, the book suffers especially from the complex structure. While Krabbe presents the story as an absorbing portrait of an uncommon relationship between two people, the plot becomes more of a puzzle: the many episodes are not presented chronologically, so that two successive scenes are seldom in the same episode. Because of this, the story feels surprisingly remote: you often need to know a character's background to really care for him or her. Another complaint was the fact that the main characters, Egon and Axel, are a little stereotypical. Egon IS 'the' dull intellectual, while Axel IS his exact opposite. In real life, such one-dimensional people rarely exist; in books and films, they always seem to be there, taking away a lot of credibility.

    Despite all this, the film was a pleasant surprise, being much better than the book. The adaptation excels in its beautiful cinematography, humour and acting: Fedja van Huet (Egon) is one of the few Dutch actors who can make you forget he IS acting (which is, in my opinion, the highest an actor can achieve). The drawbacks of the film, however, are the same as the book's: mainly because the characters are one-dimensional, they are so predictable that it becomes annoying. Guess who wrote the script? Indeed, Krabbe himself. It is obvious that this talented director (that's what the movie makes clear anyway) is hampered by a deficient screenplay. Perhaps Koolhoven should just have chosen a better book.

    7/10

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    • Curiosidades
      Originally the movie was going to be directed by Dominique Deruddere, but he pulled out. While preparing his cinema debut AmnesiA (2001), Martin Koolhoven agreed to direct this movie, on the condition he could start anew with casting and pick his own crew. He started to rework the script with writer Tim Krabbé, but years later he said he actually didn't have enough time to get the script perfect. He said he overestimated himself.
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      References AmnesiA (2001)
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    • Fecha de lanzamiento
      • 27 de septiembre de 2001 (Países Bajos)
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      • Países Bajos
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      • Holandés
      • Inglés
      • Francés
      • Tailandés
    • Títulos en diferentes países
      • The Cave
    • Localizaciones del rodaje
      • Ámsterdam, Holanda Septentrional, Países Bajos
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      • Get Reel Productions
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