Red Dwarf

Just watched a very poor quality copy. In fact I'm quite glad it was a poor quality copy because if it was good quality I would probably have been even more aware of how rubbish this was. (Kryten being the only exception).

Lister was too "Wholesome American", his character needs to be more scummy. Rimmer wasn't arsy enough. Cat looked to be reasonably well cast but there really wasn't enough of his character in the pilot to draw any real conclusion. Holly was also okay except perhaps a little too chirpy. Kryten, well Kryten was played by Robert Llewellyn so you can't really go wrong there.

If the Americans want to watch Red Dwarf why don't they just buy the original episodes off the BBC instead of butchering an absolutely timeless cult classic. I actually feel dirty, I need to watch an original episode to cleanse that detritus from my mind!

*this is the REAL pilot not the 15 min promo with female cat*

After watching this pile of drivel I was one step from cracking the VCD in my hand so that i could symbolically kill at least one of the copies of it.

The acting is at best ... questionable. And at worse...? well there was more life in a "dawn of the dead" zombie.

The script is almost identical to "the end" with a few changes for the american market (baseball cards etc)... but somehow it dont seem ...right. the canned laughter as well makes it a chore to watch.

Still Robert Llewellyn is (and always will be) a gem to watch.....and Jane Leeves makes a fine holly (all be it her British accent sometimes...just sometimes comes through ..making u think u are back watching the UK series).

Havent seen the promo 15 mins that was made after this...but have seen pictures of Terri Farrell in a cat suit..so its not a complete loss I would think...

(acctually on reflection it would be bad....Red dwarf was mostly about a man..who has lost his only true love 3 million years ago and will never see female company again..so to have a female character would be pointless)

As a lifelong Red Dwarf fan I'd obviously heard of this and seen a few clips but never until today actually sat down and watched it.

What it is is a strange re-hash of the first episode from around the time of series 5 of the UK original. It's fascinating to see what choices have been made and, strangest of all, what works. Namely - Kryten and the slicker integration of Kochanski.

The central crux of the entire of Red Dwarf is the relationship between Lister and Rimmer, and they throw this down the river in favour of a strangely out-of-place but evergreen Robert Llewellyn spoon feeding the plot to the woefully miscast Craig Bierko. He's a Craig yes, but the similarities end there.

Thankfully - it all fell apart and it stands now as an odd and forgotten curio and a testament to how remarkably well constructed, well cast and well conceived the original version is.

I just managed to see the pilot to the US version of Red Dwarf, which apparently was never screened. It is almost entirely the same dialog as the first episode of the original series. There's lots of recycled footage, in fact, I didn't see any original effects. The only major difference, except for different actors, is that they introduced Kryten from the beginning. Kryten was still played by Robert Llewellyn. There was also a funny animation of the cat's evolution. I can't imagine how small the budget must have been on this pilot. I think real Red Dwarf fans wouldn't like it because it's just a rip off of the UK version. Non-fans wouldn't like it because they failed to bridge the Atlantic comedy gap, which I assume was the point of trying to make a US version of the series. If this pilot is anything like what the US version would have been, then I guess I'm glad it failed. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

You're joking right? This is an attempt at sarcasm right? Judging by the other comments and the UK's own reddwarf fan site not even acknowledging it, and possibly even Doug Naylor would say 'No Comment' if he was asked about it. The US version didn't work. Or was it really a conspiracy by the BBC to get the US to buy the original and excellent series on BBC DVD? Complete sets of the DVD's are available from most popular media stores and auction websites. :) A question though: I've not actually seen the US Pilot or Promo, and I'm intrigued and inspired to have it just so I can show it at local conventions. How do I get a copy and who produced/owns it?