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Too Much Johnson

  • 1938
  • Not Rated
  • 1 Std. 7 Min.
IMDb-BEWERTUNG
5,7/10
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Joseph Cotten in Too Much Johnson (1938)
Comedy

Füge eine Handlung in deiner Sprache hinzuA woman has two lovers. When one man finds out about the other, he acts as a villain and chases after the protagonist.A woman has two lovers. When one man finds out about the other, he acts as a villain and chases after the protagonist.A woman has two lovers. When one man finds out about the other, he acts as a villain and chases after the protagonist.

  • Regie
    • Orson Welles
  • Drehbuch
    • William Gillette
    • Orson Welles
  • Hauptbesetzung
    • Joseph Cotten
    • Virginia Nicolson
    • Edgar Barrier
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    5,7/10
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    • Regie
      • Orson Welles
    • Drehbuch
      • William Gillette
      • Orson Welles
    • Hauptbesetzung
      • Joseph Cotten
      • Virginia Nicolson
      • Edgar Barrier
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    Joseph Cotten
    Joseph Cotten
    • Augustus Billings
    Virginia Nicolson
    • Lenore Faddish
    • (as Anna Stafford)
    Edgar Barrier
    Edgar Barrier
    • Leon Dathis
    Arlene Francis
    Arlene Francis
    • Mrs. Clairette Dathis
    Ruth Ford
    Ruth Ford
    • Mrs. Billings
    Mary Wickes
    Mary Wickes
    • Mrs. Upton Battison
    Eustace Wyatt
    Eustace Wyatt
    • Francis Faddish
    Guy Kingsley Poynter
    • Henry MacIntosh
    • (as Guy Kingsley)
    George Duthie
    • Purser
    Orson Welles
    Orson Welles
    • Keystone Kop
    John Berry
    Marc Blitzstein
    • Extra
    Herbert Drake
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    John Houseman
    John Houseman
    • Duelist…
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    Erskine Sanford
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    Howard Smith
    Howard Smith
    • Joseph Johnson
    Augusta Weissberger
    Richard Wilson
    • Cabin boy
    • Regie
      • Orson Welles
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      • William Gillette
      • Orson Welles
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    F Gwynplaine MacIntyre

    Too much Johnson, not enough Orson

    In the mid-1960s, I met Orson Welles while I was working for Lew Grade's ITC television organisation. Welles wanted Grade's backing for a film or TV project, and he was very eager to ingratiate himself. I had heard a rumour that 'Citizen Kane' was not actually Welles's film debut, and that he had directed some short films before 'Kane'. When I asked him about this, he graciously arranged for me to screen two brief films which he had directed pre-'Kane'. One of these was 'Too Much Johnson'.

    Before I describe this movie, let me explain its source. 'Too Much Johnson' was originally an 1890s stage farce written by and starring William Gillette, an actor-playwright now remembered only for having written the first play about Sherlock Holmes. The main character in 'Too Much Johnson' is Augustus Billings, an American businessman who travels to Cuba with his wife and his termagant mother-in-law Mrs Batterson. Also aboard the steamship are a hot-tempered Frenchman and his wife, and some dim-witted Canadians. En route, Billings's wife discovers an embarrassing letter in his possession. To avoid divulging the truth, Billings claims that the letter was written by a Mr Johnson (who doesn't actually exist). In Cuba, the Billings party encounter an American named Joseph Johnson. Mrs Billings and her mother assume that this man is the author of the letter. Comic complications ensue ... but they're not very funny and certainly not believable.

    Now, the film: the footage that Welles made (and which he allowed me to screen) was NOT a film version of Gillette's play. (His film ran only two reels, whilst Gillette's farce is a full-length play.) Nor is it an incomplete or abbreviated version of the stage play. Welles told me that he and the Mercury Theatre players had intended to stage a production of Gillette's play, directed by Welles. (I'm not certain if this production ever actually took place.) As an innovation, Welles and his cast filmed some bridging material, which would have been projected onstage during the scene changes. Welles cheerfully admitted that he had shot these sequences as an entree to Hollywood, in order to persuade the movie-studio executives that he could handle the disciplines of film direction.

    Bearing in mind that this footage was never meant to be a complete film, it consists of several brief unlinked scenes. We see Joseph Cotten, Ruth Ford and the very funny Mary Wickes boarding a gangway at a wharf. (There's supposed to be a large ocean liner berthed just out of frame, but there obviously isn't; the quay is clearly too small -- and in water too shallow -- to harbour an ocean liner.) We also see the Frenchman and his wife (Edgar Barrier, Arlene Francis) in an unconvincing 'shipboard' sequence. We see some shaky hand-held footage of Joseph Cotten rushing about in the 'Cuban jungle', but the local flora don't look remotely tropical ... and Cotten's clothing, as well as his lack of perspiration, indicate that this footage was shot well north of the Tropic of Cancer. Welles told me that these scenes were filmed in Connecticut, but he didn't recall precisely where and I'm not even certain that he was being truthful. (During the same conversation, Welles told me that he had been a personal friend of Bram Stoker ... who in fact died three years before Welles was born.) None of the distinctive traits of 'Citizen Kane', such as Gregg Toland's depth-of-focus shots, or Welles's ceiling compositions, are in evidence here.

    Welles also permitted me to see a brief clip of silent-film footage, shot mostly out of focus, consisting of some blurry close-ups of Joseph Cotten grinning outdoors in three-quarter view, a hand tugging a door-pull, and a brass bell spinning on a pavement. These clips seemed to be the result of Welles larking about with a camera, rather than increments of any sort of coherent film narrative. Judging from Cotten's appearance, and the general ineptitude of Welles's direction, these shots were filmed many months before 'Too Much Johnson' ... and they probably constitute Welles's debut as a film director.

    The footage which I saw on this occasion has very little entertainment value except as a curiosity, and no significance except as a footnote to Welles's career ... and perhaps as a reminder that even geniuses have to start out completely ignorant of their disciplines. 'Citizen Kane' is definitely a masterpiece, but none of that genius is on offer in these film clips.
    Michael_Elliott

    Hard to Judge a Workprint

    Too Much Johnson (1938)

    Orson Welles shot this film three years before CITIZEN KANE and it was never publicly shown. Welles had a print of the film but when he died he believed the only copy had burned in a fire but much later another print did turn up. Currently this film is available in a 66-minute workprint version as well as an edited 34-minute version, which apparently contains intertitles. It's worth pointing out that Welles himself never edited his "version" of the film.

    Since I just viewed the workprint there's really no point in "reviewing" the film because what I viewed was pretty much every bit of footage that remains of the movie. When this was shown on Turner Classic Movies they decided to show this version because, I'm guessing, it contained the most footage and I'm sure most Welles fans wanted to see everything that was shot. The story itself is pretty simple as a man (Edgar Barrier) learns that the woman he loves is seeing another man (Joseph Cotten). Throughout the film Barrier chases Cotten around trying to catch him.

    This was shot silent and was obviously a homage to the likes of Keystone and especially Harold Lloyd. Fans of the silent cinema will certainly want to watch this but those expecting to see something here that would predict the talent of Welles would eventually make something like CITIZEN KANE are going to be disappointed. Again, it's impossible to really judge a workprint but there are a few interesting things scattered throughout but I personally didn't see anything that would show early greatness from the director.

    I thought the performances were quite good and especially Cotten who really does look like a silent film star. He manages to run around, climb buildings and fall over is a very believable and at times funny manor that really reminds you of some of the silent greats. The Lloyd influence is obvious. The film contains some good cinematography but without any intertitles it's really hard to follow the story. Perhaps the shorter, edited version takes care of this. As is, TOO MUCH JOHNSON is a film that Welles fans will want to watch but if you're unfamiliar with the genius then it would be best to start somewhere else first.
    8jcravens42

    Enjoyable for non-movie scholars too

    If you aren't a movie scholar, and don't know the full history of this long-lost Orson Welles film, and don't know the summary of the play that this film was made to support, can you still enjoy it? Yes. I watched the film without reading any reviews or much background, and not knowing the play at all. And I seem to have enjoyed it far more than other reviewers.

    I found the music, and the images, hypnotic. It was like watching a French expressionist/surreal film. The imagery of the film is striking - Welles' uses building angles and shadows in a way I have never seen in any silent film before. It's striking to see a tiny character walk across the vast landscape of the roof of a building, a white suit against a dark background - like a dot moving erratically across the screen.

    Every take of each scene is used, so you see the same scenes, over and over, from different angles, each slightly different, or entirely different. Sometimes, you even see what were obvious outtakes, such as someone breaking character, or people screaming over and over, with the original intention being that only one of those screams would have been used - instead, we get them all. And that just makes the film all the more mesmerizing. Most reviewers seem to not like the music - I thought it was perfect, adding to the surreal, foreign feeling of the film - repetitive, like the scenes. It's by Remate, a contemporary music group out of Spain.

    Joseph Cotton pulls off a wonderfully physical performance, with breath-taking stunts - if you enjoy nothing else, you will enjoy that. And the obvious fun the company had putting this together (look at the faces in the crowd scenes).

    If you watch it, don't have any distractions - no laptop, no smart phone, no tablet. Just watch the film.

    Too Much Johnson was originally intended to be used in conjunction with Welles's stage adaptation of play from 1894 by William Gillette. You don't need to know a thing about that play at all to understand most of the film, except for the ending and the secondary story which is barely there at all anyway. This movie is actually three short films, and Welles' Mercury Theatre planned to show each as prologues to each act of the play. It was meant to be shown not only with music but also with live sound effects.
    7cherold

    2014 re-edit is delightful chaos

    A lot of the user reviews here are for the work print that was shown on TCM. That's about an hour. In 2014 people tried to edit the movie into something more functional which I found online and that's what I watched. And it's really fun.

    It's a quirky movie. The early scenes involve an affair and it's Discovery and there's some surprisingly close close-ups and a lot of movements, like a background tree that flutters and shakes the entire time people are arguing. It's exactly what you would expect Orson Welles to do in his early experimental phase.

    The biggest chunk of the film is a chase sequence mainly over the roofs of Manhattan. It is a wonderfully chaotic sequence in which a man grabs everyone's hats, and people barrel through a whole slew of empty crates that fall in huge towers. As the editors note Welles probably didn't plan for it to go on nearly this long but it's so entertaining that it is absolutely what they should have done.

    One of the most surprising things of the film is how good Joseph Cotton, who always played dapper and rather sedate individuals, is at slapstick comedy. He really could have done that for a living.

    The scene after on the boat is similarly chaotic with possibly more people than I've ever actually been on a boat.

    The last bit of the film isn't actually very good but the chase sequence is enough to make this well worth watching.
    5elect_michael

    1st Orson Welles & 1st Joseph Cotten Film Ever

    5 of 10 stars. This movie is worth watching as it is the 1st Film that Orson Welles ever Directed, and it is the only Silent Film he ever Directed; and it's the 1st Film that Joseph Cotten ever starred in, and the only Silent Film he ever starred in. And we know what they became, Welles, one of the most celebrated Director's in history; and Cotten having a great Acting career.

    The film is mainly unedited, so I have scenes back to back, Cotten coming around the corner...then Cotten coming around the corner. So keep this in mind when you watch it, it's not a mistake or a bad copy you are watching...it's unedited. So keep that in mind.

    It is filmed and Directed good, some of the shots and uses of shadows are extremely good, shots that aren't at a 90 degree or straight angle, all the stuff we now know about Welles that came later.

    Cotten does a good job too, has a good physical presence that works in a Silent Film. It was only 3 years later that he starred alongside Orson Welles in the Welles Directed Masterpiece 'Citizen Kane'; and the year following Citizen Kane, Cotten starred in the Orson Welles Directed Masterpiece 'The Magnificent Ambersons'. It all happened so quick.

    At the end of the day this is just an average film, and a film that Welles and Cotten never thought would go unedited; but it's a must see as it is a 1st for both, and an 'only' Silent for both.

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    • Wissenswertes
      Orson Welles shot this film as part of an experiment in using film as part of a stage production of William Gillette's farce. Unfortunately, the film was never shown publicly because, though Welles had legally arranged for the right to stage Gillette's copyrighted play, the movie rights were held by Paramount, which took out an injunction to prevent Welles from showing the film.
    • Alternative Versionen
      This film was published in Italy in an DVD anthology entitled "Troppo Johnson", distributed by DNA Srl. The film has been re-edited with the contribution of the film history scholar Riccardo Cusin . This version is also available in streaming on some platforms.
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      Featured in Magician: The Astonishing Life and Work of Orson Welles (2014)

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      • 9. Oktober 2013 (Italien)
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      • West Washington Market Building, West and Lowe Avenues, New York City, New York, USA(rooftop pursuit)
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