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Der große Treck

Originaltitel: The Big Trail
  • 1930
  • 16
  • 2 Std. 5 Min.
IMDb-BEWERTUNG
7,2/10
4852
IHRE BEWERTUNG
John Wayne and Marguerite Churchill in Der große Treck (1930)
Classical WesternAdventureDramaRomanceWestern

Füge eine Handlung in deiner Sprache hinzuBreck Coleman leads hundreds of settlers in covered wagons from the Mississippi River to their destiny out West.Breck Coleman leads hundreds of settlers in covered wagons from the Mississippi River to their destiny out West.Breck Coleman leads hundreds of settlers in covered wagons from the Mississippi River to their destiny out West.

  • Regie
    • Raoul Walsh
    • Louis R. Loeffler
  • Drehbuch
    • Hal G. Evarts
    • Marie Boyle
    • Jack Peabody
  • Hauptbesetzung
    • John Wayne
    • Marguerite Churchill
    • El Brendel
  • Siehe Produktionsinformationen bei IMDbPro
  • IMDb-BEWERTUNG
    7,2/10
    4852
    IHRE BEWERTUNG
    • Regie
      • Raoul Walsh
      • Louis R. Loeffler
    • Drehbuch
      • Hal G. Evarts
      • Marie Boyle
      • Jack Peabody
    • Hauptbesetzung
      • John Wayne
      • Marguerite Churchill
      • El Brendel
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    • 37Kritische Rezensionen
  • Siehe Produktionsinformationen bei IMDbPro
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    • Auszeichnungen
      • 5 wins total

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    John Wayne
    John Wayne
    • Breck Coleman
    Marguerite Churchill
    Marguerite Churchill
    • Ruth Cameron
    El Brendel
    El Brendel
    • Gus
    Tully Marshall
    Tully Marshall
    • Zeke
    Tyrone Power Sr.
    Tyrone Power Sr.
    • Red Flack
    • (as Tyrone Power)
    David Rollins
    David Rollins
    • Dave Cameron
    Frederick Burton
    Frederick Burton
    • Pa Bascom
    Ian Keith
    Ian Keith
    • Bill Thorpe
    Charles Stevens
    Charles Stevens
    • Lopez
    Louise Carver
    Louise Carver
    • Gus's Mother-in-Law
    Victor Adamson
    Victor Adamson
    • Wagon Train Man
    • (Nicht genannt)
    Phyllis Bainbridge
    • Pioneer
    • (Nicht genannt)
    Chief John Big Tree
    Chief John Big Tree
    • Indian
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    Ward Bond
    Ward Bond
    • Sid Bascom
    • (Nicht genannt)
    Nora Bush
    • Pioneer
    • (Nicht genannt)
    Martin Cichy
    Martin Cichy
    • Pioneer
    • (Nicht genannt)
    Don Coleman
    Don Coleman
    • Wrangler
    • (Nicht genannt)
    Nancy Crowley
    • Pioneer Child
    • (Nicht genannt)
    • Regie
      • Raoul Walsh
      • Louis R. Loeffler
    • Drehbuch
      • Hal G. Evarts
      • Marie Boyle
      • Jack Peabody
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    7bkoganbing

    Trailblazing,.....sort of

    John Wayne is one of the few players in film history to have failed at his first big break and then succeed on the second time around. Of course everyone knows the second time was the classic Stagecoach with John Ford directing.

    But we're here to talk about The Big Trail. John Ford's fellow director Raoul Walsh spotted this tall kid on the set of one of Ford's films and thought he had potential. He wanted to make him the lead in a big budget western that Fox was planning to do. The film as planned would be an homage to the famous classic silent western The Covered Wagon.

    In watching The Big Trail I was struck by how similar Wayne's character of Breck Coleman here is to the Ringo Kid in Stagecoach. Both characters were likable young cowpokes, but both were also on a mission of vengeance. And of course both films were done on location and show the expense in making them. No studio product here with a backlot western set.

    I also don't think that it was an accident that Wayne got this break at the beginning of the sound era. Raoul Walsh, I'm guessing looked around Hollywood and probably didn't think a whole lot of movie cowboys would have staying power in sound. That's something else Walsh spotted in Wayne.

    According to what I've read The Big Trail flopped because after spending all that money to make the film in an early wide screen process, some genius at Fox realized that their theaters weren't equipped with the wide screen to show it. And when the Great Depression hit there would be no money to widen those screens at Fox movie houses. So The Big Trail got a limited release, even in what we would call a formatted version, and lost money big for Fox films.

    Marguerite Churchill is fine as the crinoline heroine who Duke wins, loses and wins again from Ian Keith. Keith, Charles Stevens and F. Tyrone Power are the trio of villains Wayne has to deal with.

    F. Tyrone Power is the father of the famous movie legend Tyrone Power. He was a big burly man with a grand background in classic roles on screen and on stage. I wouldn't be surprised if his son who would have been 15 at the time might not have been hanging around the set.

    Also look for Ward Bond though you might have trouble spotting him under a big bushy beard.

    Watching The Big Trail now it is interesting to speculate where John Wayne's career might have gone if The Big Trail had been a big hit.
    harry-76

    Pioneer Filmmaking Effort

    Only three years after Able Gance's "Napoleon," was released in the revolutionary Spherical (1:33:1) and Triptych (4:00:1 aspect ratio) process, Raoul Walsh's "The Big Trail" hit the market, shot in then-experimental "Fox Grandeur 70 mm."

    That alone makes "The Big Trail" a technically significant film. Word has it that it failed economically, in part due to only two U.S. theatres presenting its original format (NYC's Roxy and LA's Grauman's Chinese Theatres). The rest of the country's movie houses balked at the cost of the extra equipment necessary, after having recently converted to sound. (Does this seem reminiscent of the "'Star Wars' digital satellite controversy" of 2002?)

    Finding a VHS or DVD widescreen print of "The Big Trail" is difficult. It's been shown on tv and in special movie houses that way on occasion. Generally, though, one gets a standard screen version, which fails to capture the eye-popping 70 mm. aspect ratio of the original.

    The production's statistics are impressive--a 347 cast/crew, covering 7 states in 10 weeks, replete with wagons, cattle, oxen, mules, horses, et al., retracing the first settler's trek over the Oregon trail one hundred years earlier.

    Twenty year old Marion Morrison was renamed John Wayne and teamed with nineteen year old Broadway actress Margurite Churchill for a hoped-for "hot screen combination." The two worked efficiently, with Wayne's untrained, natural talent in evidence.

    The production looks very laborious and challenging--yet appropriate to the conditions of those early pioneers. European "superiority" vs. Native American "savagery" is expressed in the script--establishing a skewed perspective for numerous films to follow. Likewise, macho "frontier justice" is forcefully dramatized--a model for many later western efforts.

    "The Big Trail," while a technical landmark, also presents a Hollywoodized depiction of American history. For a more complete understanding of this period and these events, one is prone to engage in more committed and comprehensive research.
    8planktonrules

    For 1930, this was a dandy Western

    My giving this film a score of 8 is relative to other feature-length films from 1930. By the standards of films made just a few years later, this film might receive a score of only 6 or 7--mostly because the sound quality was so poor. Now it is possible that the film sounded better and the Fox Movie Channel did show a degraded print (it DID have a lot of lines and scratches), but I assume the sound problem was always an issue. That's because sound in movies was still a novelty in 1930 and many of the Hollywood talking pictures of 1930 sounded terrible--with background characters often drowning out the leads, characters huddled together to make sure they are picked up by the microphones or inconsistent quality (such as what was seen in THE BISHOP MURDER CASE, HELL'S ANGELS and other films of the day). This was all made much worse in THE BIG TRAIL because most of the film was shot outside--something unheard of at the time. Quite an innovation but also something that really stretched the talents of the sound technicians! So, while the film was very hard to listen to, I realize that they had to start somewhere, so I can forgive this--especially since the outdoor scenes are breathtaking--a major innovation for 1930.

    The plot is rather similar to CIMARRON--a Western that came out the following year and which captured the Oscar for Best Picture. Unfortunately, CIMARRON isn't all that great a film and I actually like THE BIG TRAIL more due to the scope of the film. While some might balk at THE BIG TRAIL's slow-moving pace, I saw it as a great history lesson about the hardships endured by those traveling West on wagon trains. Plus, the whole thing just looked so beautiful, as director Raoul Walsh went to significant trouble to film on location and THE BIG TRAIL looks almost like a film version of some Ansel Adams prints.

    As for the acting, it was pretty good. This was a major break for young John Wayne--as his previous screen appearances were, at best, minor and unremarkable. Here, he was given the lead and did a dandy job--though he was obviously young and a little less "John Wayne-ish" than he was in later films, as his screen persona was not yet firmly established. Another interesting part was played by Tyrone Power II (Tyrone Power's father). He looked nothing like his extremely handsome son and looked and sounded almost exactly like Bluto from the Popeye cartoons! He made very few sound films--dying just a year after making this film--so it's a rare opportunity to see and hear this once famous actor.

    Overall, the film is well worth seeing despite some sound problems and a few overly long scenes here and there. For 1930, it was a remarkable achievement--more so than the much more famous and award-winning CIMARRON made the following year. Much of the reason THE BIG TRAIL didn't win an Oscar most likely was because ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT came out the same year and it is truly one of the great films.
    Kelly-17

    Good wagons, wagon circling, and gun smoke. Corny but good historical props.

    This movie is impressive for the type of physical props used. The wagons were real Conestoga, not the cut-down replicas seen in later movies. The circling of the wagons to fend off an attack by the locals was done with realism -- wagons overlapped with draft animals placed inside the ring -- resulting in what seems like hundreds milling about in the center. And when the shooting starts the wagons virtually disappear in the smoke. Very good representation of 'real life' (I shoot muzzle loading rifles so I know about the smoke part of it). Too bad I can't find this one on laserdisc for my library...
    9RAS-3

    Big, gritty and ... wide screen in 1930?

    John Wayne's first starring role just blew me away. Televised letterbox style on AMC, I had to check and make sure I had the right date. Sure enough, this 1930 film was made using a 55 mm wide-screen process. Aside from that, it features some of the grittiest, most realistic footage of the trek west I've seen. Wagons, men and animals are really lowered down a cliff face by rope. Trees are chopped by burly men -- and burly women -- so the train can move another 10 feet. The Indians are not the "pretty boy" city slickers who portrayed them later; they're the real deal. A river crossing in a driving rain storm is so realistic, it has to be real (In fact, I understand that director Raoul Walsh nearly lost the entire cast during this sequence). I could smell the wet canvas. Each day is an agony. The various sub-plots are forgettable but the film as a whole is not. I can't think of another title that can beat The Big Trail in evoking a sense of living history on the trail to Oregon. Bravo.

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    • Wissenswertes
      Incredibly, six different versions of this film were shot simultaneously: (1) a 70mm version in the Grandeur process for exhibition in the biggest movie palaces, (2) a standard 35mm version for general release, (3) a 35mm alternate French-language version La piste des géants (1931)', (4) a 35mm alternate Spanish-language version La gran jornada (1931), (5) a 35mm alternate German-language version Die große Fahrt (1931), and (6) a 35mm alternate Italian-language version Il grande sentiero (1931). The four alternate-language versions were shot with (mostly) different casts.
    • Patzer
      Based on the 26 star flag (1837-1845), the film takes place in the 1840s. Many of the settlers use Springfield Model 1873 "trapdoor" rifles. This was common in Hollywood because the 1873 was based on the 1861 rifled musket, which closed a continuous line of muskets going back to 1795, so it easily could stand in for a muzzle loading musket to the untrained eye.
    • Zitate

      Breck Coleman, Wagon Train Scout: We can't turn back! We're blazing a trail that started in England. Not even the storms of the sea could turn back the first settlers. And they carrie dit on further. They blazed it on through the wilderness of Kentucky. Famine, hunger, not even massacres could stop them. And now we picked up the trail again. And nothing can stop us! Not even the snows of winter, nor the peaks of the highest mountain. We're building a nation and we got to suffer! No great trail was ever built without hardship. And you got to fight! That's right. And when you stop fighting, that's death. What are you going to do, lay down and die? Not in a thousand years! You're going on with me!

    • Crazy Credits
      Opening credits prologue: DEDICATED- To the men and women who planted civilization in the wilderness and courage in the blood of their children.

      Gathered from the north, the south, and the east, they assemble on the bank of the Mississippi for the conquest of the west.
    • Alternative Versionen
      Filmed in two versions simultaneously: widescreen process Grandeur in 70mm, and in standard 35mm. Some scenes were shot simultaneously in both formats; other scenes were shot twice, once for each format. The two versions are not identical in content - the 70mm version runs 125 minutes, while the 35mm version runs a shorter 108 minutes (but does contain some scenes not found in the longer widescreen version).
    • Verbindungen
      Alternate-language version of La gran jornada (1931)
    • Soundtracks
      Song of the Big Trail
      (1930) (uncredited)

      Music by James F. Hanley

      Lyrics by Joseph McCarthy

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    • Erscheinungsdatum
      • 1. November 1930 (Vereinigte Staaten)
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      • Vereinigte Staaten
    • Sprache
      • Englisch
    • Auch bekannt als
      • La gran jornada
    • Drehorte
      • Jackson Hole, Wyoming, USA
    • Produktionsfirma
      • Fox Film Corporation
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