The State
- Miniserie
- 2017–
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7,1/10
1633
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Füge eine Handlung in deiner Sprache hinzuA look at the lives of four British citizens who join ISIS in Syria.A look at the lives of four British citizens who join ISIS in Syria.A look at the lives of four British citizens who join ISIS in Syria.
- Nominiert für 1 BAFTA Award
- 8 Nominierungen insgesamt
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Stop! Don't believe the one star reviews.
As a conservative, I too had a negative reaction to just seeing the promotional material advertising this TV Series. Mainly because I expected your usual left-wing propaganda from liberal cabal that is running the entertainment industry, hammered into my brain. Or worse, glamorizing Jihadis much like Rolling Stone did with Tsarnaev Brothers.
But I assure it is not so. I have no idea who this Peter Kosminsky is, but he did a great job of bringing the story of five British would be Jihadis going to Syria, and their travails as they battle the Kurds, Assad's Army, Western backed coalition... But mostly battle with their own doubts.
The State shows in vivid terms what was happening in parts of Syria ISIS controlled during their heyday from early 2014 to late 2017.
The State is a fascinating insight for someone like me, a citizen of the West, who was affected by it during that time period. To see all those young men and women running off to join these cruel butchers, after we threw open the doors for their parents and gave them a chance at a better life in the West...
It deeply changed me who I am as a person. From a young, left-wing liberal secular progressive I used to be during 2000s, to a right-wing conservative Atheist considering conversion to Christianity or Judaism I am today.
After only half of first episode I was immersed into it. All along, I was expecting to be suddenly disrespected, or have my intelligence insulted by bankrupt liberal ideology, but... It didn't come.
Kosminsky just told a good story. Left it to us to be the judges. Which is what a good artists should be doing. Otherwise they are not artists. They are propagandists. Did he do that because he is aware of a deep cultural shift undergoing in the Western world (trust me, I wasn't the only one who was "Red Pilled" by ISIS), or because he just happens to be a good director, it doesn't matter.
What matters is that the first 4 episodes are among the greatest I've seen in British television. The liberals might be crying how there should have been another episode explaining the motivation behind joining ISIS, presumably so the filmmakers could blame the West...
But I'm glad they didn't do it. We don't care. We are sick and tired of excuses and blame. We are furious. And I'm glad that at least for the first 4 episodes we weren't made fools of.
We don't care about "why". We care about "because". The reasons they joined ISIS? It is BECAUSE they are Muslim. Looking for a way into paradise. If not in this life then in the afterlife.
It is an immersive, vivid portrayal of people caught up in the events in Syria. Some of whom would kill us if they had the chance. Following them along their journey is a deeply moving TV watching experience. So do yourself a favour and see this show.
Sooner or later, there will be yet another Islamic State of This and That, somewhere in the Muslim World. And there will be more young Muslims joining them in droves... But hopefully some of them will see this show and think twice what they are doing.
As a conservative, I too had a negative reaction to just seeing the promotional material advertising this TV Series. Mainly because I expected your usual left-wing propaganda from liberal cabal that is running the entertainment industry, hammered into my brain. Or worse, glamorizing Jihadis much like Rolling Stone did with Tsarnaev Brothers.
But I assure it is not so. I have no idea who this Peter Kosminsky is, but he did a great job of bringing the story of five British would be Jihadis going to Syria, and their travails as they battle the Kurds, Assad's Army, Western backed coalition... But mostly battle with their own doubts.
The State shows in vivid terms what was happening in parts of Syria ISIS controlled during their heyday from early 2014 to late 2017.
The State is a fascinating insight for someone like me, a citizen of the West, who was affected by it during that time period. To see all those young men and women running off to join these cruel butchers, after we threw open the doors for their parents and gave them a chance at a better life in the West...
It deeply changed me who I am as a person. From a young, left-wing liberal secular progressive I used to be during 2000s, to a right-wing conservative Atheist considering conversion to Christianity or Judaism I am today.
After only half of first episode I was immersed into it. All along, I was expecting to be suddenly disrespected, or have my intelligence insulted by bankrupt liberal ideology, but... It didn't come.
Kosminsky just told a good story. Left it to us to be the judges. Which is what a good artists should be doing. Otherwise they are not artists. They are propagandists. Did he do that because he is aware of a deep cultural shift undergoing in the Western world (trust me, I wasn't the only one who was "Red Pilled" by ISIS), or because he just happens to be a good director, it doesn't matter.
What matters is that the first 4 episodes are among the greatest I've seen in British television. The liberals might be crying how there should have been another episode explaining the motivation behind joining ISIS, presumably so the filmmakers could blame the West...
But I'm glad they didn't do it. We don't care. We are sick and tired of excuses and blame. We are furious. And I'm glad that at least for the first 4 episodes we weren't made fools of.
We don't care about "why". We care about "because". The reasons they joined ISIS? It is BECAUSE they are Muslim. Looking for a way into paradise. If not in this life then in the afterlife.
It is an immersive, vivid portrayal of people caught up in the events in Syria. Some of whom would kill us if they had the chance. Following them along their journey is a deeply moving TV watching experience. So do yourself a favour and see this show.
Sooner or later, there will be yet another Islamic State of This and That, somewhere in the Muslim World. And there will be more young Muslims joining them in droves... But hopefully some of them will see this show and think twice what they are doing.
Reading some reviews of The State, it seems some have completely missed the point of this mini-series. Far from glamourising IS this excellent series lays bare the lie that is at the heart of the death cult of Daesh. That lie draws impressionable, idealistic young Muslims across the west into a situation way out of their depth. Some argue that all who join IS know exactly what they are doing, which seems to leave some viewers unable to find anything sympathetic about the four young Brits portrayed here. Frankly, being unable to experience empathy for these characters says more about the person reviewing than it does about the situation itself.
Far from idealising and glamourising IS this remarkable mini-series shows the brutality and evil at the heart of it in a way nothing else I've seen quite does. Several scenes are incredibly difficult to watch, clearly intentionally so, and I found the changes of focus from the young jihadis experiencing the terror of battle and the brutalisation of witnessing torture, to the stories of the women and children equally brutalised and adapting (or not) to an almost alien culture, incredibly compelling.
This was brave television and for the most part well done. I feel it would have benefited from more time given to the ending, as this felt rushed and uncertain, but otherwise an excellent and compelling story.
Far from idealising and glamourising IS this remarkable mini-series shows the brutality and evil at the heart of it in a way nothing else I've seen quite does. Several scenes are incredibly difficult to watch, clearly intentionally so, and I found the changes of focus from the young jihadis experiencing the terror of battle and the brutalisation of witnessing torture, to the stories of the women and children equally brutalised and adapting (or not) to an almost alien culture, incredibly compelling.
This was brave television and for the most part well done. I feel it would have benefited from more time given to the ending, as this felt rushed and uncertain, but otherwise an excellent and compelling story.
Great portrayal of the heinous nature of ISIS. And how regular British Muslims can get sucked in by the internet propaganda. And then are shocked when they actually arrive and see the true nature of these people supposedly called Muslims. When they are just extremists like every Religion has. It really put into perspective for me that Christians & Muslims are not that different. And both have radical extremists that use religion as an excuse for violent and offensive behavior. I don't know how anyone saw this as propaganda for ISIS. Who would want to live that way? It wasn't glorified at all. It showed the harsh reality of everyday life. And it didn't look fun to me.
Okay perhaps something of a wake-up call is needed for the people who wrote the scathing entirely undeserved one-star reviews of this show, out of, it would seem, hatred for any attempt to show sympathy for the characters portrayed here - I will take something of a more pragmatic approach to the material.
Jumping straight in at the deep end 'The State' introduces us to four young characters as they travel from the west to Syria, each with their own delusions about what it will mean to join Islamic State and build the new state of Syria. There's young Doctor and single Mother, Shakira (Ony Uhiara - brilliant) Jalal (Sam Otto - outstanding) whose brother joined prior to him and was killed in action, who wants to fight the enemy along with his childhood friend Ziyaad (Ryan McKen) and finally Ushna (an excellent debut from Shavani Cameron)who hopes to be a 'lioness among lions' but still hates to use a shared toilet. So it is on the front lines of the fighting in Syria that these four characters find themselves. The women are taken to the female compound run by the pious hands of westerner Umm Walid (Jessica Gunning, suitably patronising in the role) While the men are trained to kill and assigned combat duty, meeting other westerners who have come to join the fight. So it is that we follow the course of their lives and the people they meet over a few short weeks.
I find comments elsewhere about this shows attempts to sympathise with these young people rather vacuous and missing the point of the show entirely - There is little sympathy to be found for our leading protagonists here. We do not, for one thing, know why they came to join with perhaps the exception of Jalal. An advert for recruitment to ISIS, this show IS NOT. The threat of rape for the female characters is constant throughout the story while the men are sent into near suicide combat missions, being told a glorious death awaits them. This is a story about four people who were naively drawn into a cause, the reality of which they didn't fully comprehend until they were standing in the middle of it. Where the show is it's strongest is with the Shakira / Jalal story lines and this is as much down to the performance by the actors, as it is about the script. Casting Director Nina Gold has assembled an impressive and convincing cast here, with the stand out performance being that of Sam Otto. His inner conflict and doubt is precisely stated with just the odd look and glance, while Ony Uhiara, as the Doctor who finds she is increasingly marginalised realises her son is being turned into a killer before her very eyes, plays her growing doubt with great conviction. Special mention here must also go to child actor Nana Agyeman-Bediako who is fantastic as her son. A number of the supporting cast are extremely good as well, having cast a number of people who speak perfect Arabic. Karim Kassem is especially good as the local ISIS leader, who haunts Shakira's every move while Jack Greenless stands out as an ex-western soldier in a very under written role. Haaz Sleiman, Fayez Bakhsh and Hiam Abbass all make their mark in the story and deserve a mention.
What 'The State' does, is Humanise the characters it portrays. We can probably all remember a time once where some of us were naively influenced by a political movement at the time, be that CND or protesting against perfume being used on monkeys. This is a story about that time in our youth, where we were impressionable, we could make a mistake and suddenly we find ourselves growing up very fast. The experience these people went through felt authentic and that is important because nothing shown here would in my view ever encourage a person to take the same journey. Schools would do well to show this series to their students.
For me, there was one thing that was missing from the show. I felt it would have benefited from another episode prior to episode one which demonstrated how each person was drawn into this cause. The producers felt it was enough to show that they are, which is, of course, the reality but f we don't understand what draws people to a cause like this, how are we ever going to understand it?
Jumping straight in at the deep end 'The State' introduces us to four young characters as they travel from the west to Syria, each with their own delusions about what it will mean to join Islamic State and build the new state of Syria. There's young Doctor and single Mother, Shakira (Ony Uhiara - brilliant) Jalal (Sam Otto - outstanding) whose brother joined prior to him and was killed in action, who wants to fight the enemy along with his childhood friend Ziyaad (Ryan McKen) and finally Ushna (an excellent debut from Shavani Cameron)who hopes to be a 'lioness among lions' but still hates to use a shared toilet. So it is on the front lines of the fighting in Syria that these four characters find themselves. The women are taken to the female compound run by the pious hands of westerner Umm Walid (Jessica Gunning, suitably patronising in the role) While the men are trained to kill and assigned combat duty, meeting other westerners who have come to join the fight. So it is that we follow the course of their lives and the people they meet over a few short weeks.
I find comments elsewhere about this shows attempts to sympathise with these young people rather vacuous and missing the point of the show entirely - There is little sympathy to be found for our leading protagonists here. We do not, for one thing, know why they came to join with perhaps the exception of Jalal. An advert for recruitment to ISIS, this show IS NOT. The threat of rape for the female characters is constant throughout the story while the men are sent into near suicide combat missions, being told a glorious death awaits them. This is a story about four people who were naively drawn into a cause, the reality of which they didn't fully comprehend until they were standing in the middle of it. Where the show is it's strongest is with the Shakira / Jalal story lines and this is as much down to the performance by the actors, as it is about the script. Casting Director Nina Gold has assembled an impressive and convincing cast here, with the stand out performance being that of Sam Otto. His inner conflict and doubt is precisely stated with just the odd look and glance, while Ony Uhiara, as the Doctor who finds she is increasingly marginalised realises her son is being turned into a killer before her very eyes, plays her growing doubt with great conviction. Special mention here must also go to child actor Nana Agyeman-Bediako who is fantastic as her son. A number of the supporting cast are extremely good as well, having cast a number of people who speak perfect Arabic. Karim Kassem is especially good as the local ISIS leader, who haunts Shakira's every move while Jack Greenless stands out as an ex-western soldier in a very under written role. Haaz Sleiman, Fayez Bakhsh and Hiam Abbass all make their mark in the story and deserve a mention.
What 'The State' does, is Humanise the characters it portrays. We can probably all remember a time once where some of us were naively influenced by a political movement at the time, be that CND or protesting against perfume being used on monkeys. This is a story about that time in our youth, where we were impressionable, we could make a mistake and suddenly we find ourselves growing up very fast. The experience these people went through felt authentic and that is important because nothing shown here would in my view ever encourage a person to take the same journey. Schools would do well to show this series to their students.
For me, there was one thing that was missing from the show. I felt it would have benefited from another episode prior to episode one which demonstrated how each person was drawn into this cause. The producers felt it was enough to show that they are, which is, of course, the reality but f we don't understand what draws people to a cause like this, how are we ever going to understand it?
An excellent series that shows a good preliminary work of investigation in order to make it as realistic as possible. It is neither by far nor by near, an apology for Islamic radicalism and violence; show only a naked reality that, whether we like it or not, exists and which is not worth ignoring. The most attentive viewer will find during the 04 episodes not only the large references associated with ISIS (free and medieval violence, religion, the situation of women, accepted and justified slavery, but also small references to the bombing of civilian targets, former officers of Saddam who, by being ostracized and persecuted in the Iraq, formed the backbone of senior officers who allowed ISIS to have some success at the beginning of the expansion of the Califado, as well as the relevant issue of advertising and its dissemination in social networks. To see without reservations ...
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